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Here you will find General Techniques and Post about some topics:

NLP
Wing Tactics
Boyfriend Destroyers
Hired Guns
Drawing Analysis
Handwriting Analysis
AMOG Prevention
Eliminate ONE-ITIS

What is NLP ?

Is a set of techniques, axioms and beliefs that adherents use primarily as an approach to personal development . It is based on the idea that mind, body and language interact to create an individual's perception of the world and that perceptions, and hence behaviors, can be changed by the application of a variety of techniques. The underlying source of these techniques, called "modeling", involves the careful reproduction of the behaviors and beliefs of those who have achieved "excellence". The early focus of NLP was the study of the underlying patterns in the language and techniques of noted and successful therapists in  hypnotherapy, gestalt therapy and family therapy. The patterns discovered were adapted for general communication and effecting change.

There are many concepts and methods:

The Milton model  is a form of hypnotherapy based on the language patterns for hypnotic communication of Milton Erickson , a noted hypnotherapist. It has been described as "a way of using language to induce and maintain trance in order to contact the hidden resources of our personality". The Milton model has three primary aspects: Firstly, to assist in building and maintaining rapport with the client. Secondly, to overload and distract the conscious mind so that unconscious communication  can be cultivated. Thirdly, to allow for interpretation in the words offered to the client.

1. Rapport

The first aspect, building rapport or empathy, is done to achieve better communication and responsiveness. NLP teaches 'mirroring' or matching body language, posture, breathing, predicates and voice tonality. Rapport is an aspect of 'pacing' or tuning into the client or learners world. Once pacing is established, the practitioner can 'lead' by changing their behavior or perception so the other follows. O'Connor & Seymour in "Introducing NLP" describe rapport as a 'harmonious dance', an extension of natural skills, but warn against mimicry. Singer gives examples of the pantomime effect of mere mimicry by some practitioners which does not create rapport.

2. Overloading conscious attention

The second aspect of the milton model is that it uses ambiguity in language and non-verbal communication. This might also be combined with vagueness, which arises when the boundaries of meaning are indistinct. The use of ambiguity and vagueness distracts the conscious mind as it tries to work out what is meant which gives the unconscious mind the opportunity to prosper.

3. Indirect communication

The third aspect of the milton model is that it is purposely vague and metaphoric for the purpose of accessing the unconscious mind. It is used to soften the meta model and make indirect suggestions. A direct suggestion merely states what is wanted, for example, "when you are in front of the audience you will not feel nervous". In contrast an indirect suggestion is less authoritative and leaves an opportunity for interpretation, for example, "When you are in front of the audience, you might find yourself feeling ever more confident". This example follows the indirect method leaving both the specific time and level of self-confidence unspecified. It might be made even more indirect by saying, "when you come to a decision to speak in public, you may find it appealing how your feelings have changed." The choice of speaking in front of the audience, the exact time and the likely responses to the whole process are framed but the imprecise language gives the client the opportunity to fill in the finer details.

XF

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NLP to Seduce Woman  by Gambler

5.  Patterns

NLP patterns for seduction involve the use of language to bring out an emotion in the girl that is desirable given the current circumstances.  An example of an NLP seduction pattern would be:

"Have you ever just met someone and almost immediately you start to feel incredibly comfortable like you've known this person forever and then as you just let the barriers drop and you let them more inside you start to naturally feel a sense of rightness, like this is meant to be". 

For greater effect, the italicised words should be "marked out" by delivering them slightly differently. 

NLP is a powerful tool of influence, and to land the girl of your dreams you are going to want to use all the tools at your disposal to maximise your chances.  Work on the above techniques and your newfound success with women will surprise and delight you!

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Success, XF.

You: "You know, I saw the most interesting show on the Discovery Channel last night. They were interviewing people who make their living designing attractions for amusement parks like Magic Mountain and Disneyland and Universal Studios. Wouldn't that be a cool way to make a living?"

Her: "Yeah! That sounds so interesting."


You: "Well, anyway, they were talking about the elements that make up the ideal attraction (sp). They said there are 3 parts to the ideal attraction. First, when you EXPERIENCE the ideal attraction, you FEEL A STATE OF HIGH AROUSAL. The ideal attraction makes your heart beat faster, and your breathing gets faster and you just FEEL THAT AMAZING RUSH all over."

Her: "Yeah!"

You: "And then they said that another part to an ideal attraction is - it's fascinating. You just FEEL SO ENTHRALLED that you want to TAKE THIS RIDE (point to your pecker!) multiple times; as soon as you GET OFF you want to GET BACK ON again."

Her: "Yeah!"

You: "And they said, finally, the most important element, is a sense of overall safety. That even though the attraction make look a little dangerous, you're CERTAIN YOU'RE SAFE... you FEEL SAFE because you realise nothing bad can really happen, so that allows you to FEEL TOTALLY FREE to LET GO AND ENJOY THAT GREAT AROUSAL again and again and again. Can you (squeeze her hand) feel _that_... is pretty close to the way it is?"

Her: "Oooh...yeah!!"

Ok, this pattern has been reported to make women cum, out of the blue, just by reciting it to them. Usually though, after you're done with your description, the girl says with a sly smile "Sounded more like making love "  Don't be shocked, don't stiffen up - for she loved it regardless. Or rather... exactly because of that. And if nothing else comes to mind, you can answer with a confused look at first and
then a "Well... now that you mention it.".

You: "When you imagine how much fun it is to ride a roller coaster or any other kind of amusement park ride .. Its like as that ride is climbing up and up, you can feel your heart pounding with excitement, you feel you're breathing faster and faster, sometimes you're even gasping and panting you feel the blood rushing through every part of your body and as that excitement and tension is building and building, you reach the top of the ride and then as it crests, you just release it in a flood of excitement, and sometimes you're screaming you're so turned on. And you know, afterwards I thought to myself, isn't that the totally accurate description of your ideal attraction to another person. You know that kind of wonderful click right there (right in the center of who you are) that just makes you feel totally drawn to this person and on one hand you feel totally safe and totally comfortable like you were meant to know them and as if you've known them forever."

Credit to: Ross Jeffries

If you’re looking to pick up a stripper, do yourself a favor and go to the club on a night when the place isn’t really busy. On weekends there are too many customers in the club, and the girls are basically stripping machines. They don’t have time to sit and talk. The quieter the place is when you go, the more attention each girl will give you, and the more time you’ll have to run game on her.

When you take a table and sit down, sit with your back to the stage and talk with your friends. This will make it look like you really don’t care about any of the girls. If you go by yourself, get a table and sit sideways to the stage and only turn your head to look over for a few seconds every few minutes— concentrate on your drink. This will get the dancers thinking that you’re interested more in a table dance, and they’ll be quicker to approach you to ask.

When a girl does come around asking if you want to buy a dance, break the customer frame as quickly as possible. You don’t want her to see you as just another 10$ bill. Go C&F: “You don’t care about me! I’m just another 10$ bill to you! I can see dollar signs in your eyes when you look at me. Here, have a seat and talk with us and talk first.” When she sits down beside you, DON’T turn your body to face her, just your head. She’ll feel like she’s not included in the group, and she’ll probably work to gain rapport with you so she’ll feel validated (AND try to get you to buy a dance). Go heavy with C&F on strippers, because you need to set yourself apart from all the ass-kissing guys saying how hot she is. Most importantly, don’t compliment her on anything, and don’t even acknowledge she’s naked. Don’t look her body over, don’t even look down at her breasts even once. Just lock your eyes on her face, and pretend you’re talking to some fully-clothed girl in a regular bar or club. If you comment on any props, accessories, or costumes she has, do it in a C&F way. Let’s say she’s wearing those shoes with the transparent plastic heels: “Ohhhh you’re wearing glass slippers! That’s so cute, you’re like a little Cinderella”. Eventually she’ll ask you if you want to buy a dance. Tell her “Maybe later, we want to check out the other girls first”. She’ll leave flustered, but she’ll be back in the hope of making some money off you later.

Never trust a stripper touching you as an indicator of interest. They rub you, touch you, caress you, etc. as a tactic to get you interested in a dance.

Most C&F and attraction techniques are just fine for using on dancers, since they are women after all. Here are some specific lines you can use in the strip club environment:

“What do you do? You’re a dancer??? I thought you were just hanging out here naked!”

When she comes back and asks a second time if you want a dance: "There are all these beautiful girls in this room, why should I pick YOU?"

Flirt Statement of Intent (SOI): "Just because I don’t want a dance doesn’t mean I don’t want you naked on top of me."

”What’s the craziest thing you’ve ever done?” (blah blah) Turn your body away and act totally unimpressed at the answer. Then turn back, smile and say “Come on, are you JOKING?? The craziest thing you ever did was X??”

(if you’ve been gaming a dancer and she goes up to dance, DO NOT watch her. Turn your back to the stage and talk to your buddies. When she comes back to talk to you she’ll ask why you weren’t watching her) "Well I don’t wanna watch you. Because we’ve been having such a nice conversation for (time) now and when I see you naked (notice the framing), I want it to be when we’re all over each other like animals.”

Introducing another great test to use in the Field :

XF: Hey let's play a game...  (Pull out a pen and a paper)

XF: I want you to draw a Landscape, But you got to be creative, Draw any detail you want.

HB: Ok

XF: Draw a Mountain

XF: Draw a Path

XF: Draw a Tree / or many Trees

---------------------------------------------------->  It should look like this.

1. Relative to the size of the paper, how much space does your handwriting take :

• Small Space: You like to be surrounded by four solid walls.

• Everything in moderation: You plan ahead, and are interested in beauty, design, outward appearance, and symmetry.

• A Lot of Space: You fill every waking moment with activity.

2. What style is your handwriting?

•   Entirely in cursive: You are a social person who likes to talk and meet others.

•   A combination of cursive and print: You are a shy, idealistic person who does not find it easy to have relationships, especially intimate ones.

•   Entirely in print: You are a person who thinks before acting, intelligent and thorough.

3. Which direction does your handwriting slant?

•   Back with the top leaning to the left: You are negative, fearful, resistant, doubtful, and/or selfish.

•   Straight up and down: You are diplomatic, objective, and live in the present.

•   Forward and to the right: You are affectionate, passionate, expressive, and future-oriented.

4. Between each word, there is

•   Little or no space: You are not very reserved, impatient, self-confident and fond of action.

•   Some space, maybe with width of a single letter or two: You are a talkative person, maybe even a busybody!

•   A large space, possibly as wide as some of the words themselves: You are reserved, shy, cautious, and thoughtful.

5. Last question! You embellish your signature with

•   Nothing: You enjoy life in your own way and do not depend on the opinions of others.

•   A single underline: You are self-confident and like to bring attention to yourself.

•   Multiple underlines: You like standing out and making sure that people know your mind.

Graphology: defined as the study of handwriting and handwriting analysis

• Right Slant listener, outgoing

• Straight Independence

• Left Slant emotional and reserved

• Large: Extroverted, outgoing, this may be genuine or may be an act, if it corresponds to right slant its true, if it corresponds to left slant it is an act

• Small:  academic, and a thinker regardless of slant

• Heavy pressure Embraces commitment, takes things seriously

• Light Pressure Sensitive to atmosphere, very emphatic. Pities ppl

• Varied Pressure Lack of Vitality, inconsistent

• Tall strokes  simply ambition

• Loops Wide loops = Imagination

• Straight strokes : Impatience, loner

• Cradles Avoids confrontation

• Full Loops Imagination, size of loop = size of sex drive

• Varied Unsettled personality, instable

• Incomplete Loops Indicate Sexual Frustration

• Wide Spacing: Stands Back and Takes a Long View

• Close Spacing :Cool Under Pressure

The term wingman comes from the movie: Top Gun

Purpose of being a wingman

As a wing….you just need to distract the obstacle/s so that the PUA can isolate the target. That’s it. That’s all that is required of you. This is the most important rule that sets the stage for all other wingman guidelines….so learn it first.

I have seen, many a time, a wingman enter set and then sarge the obstacles as though he had opened the set. Its unbelieveable….and wrong. I admit sometimes even the best of PUA’s fall in to this trap. The mindset you carry throughout a sarge begins to become habit and when you enter set as a wing you make the error of sarging the obstacles. Most of the time when you go out sarging this would seem like normal behaviour….”Im opening….My target is the blonde…”….”Ok, Ill sarge the brunette…” Unfortunately this is not the same as distracting the obstacles….

That’s the idea…..to distract the obstacles so the PUA can isolate his target. That’s the whole point on being a wingman. By you sarging the obstacle….you are not correctly isolating. Why? Simple….if your sarging the obstacle her protection shield will kick into gear. Women sense when you are hitting on them and then they search for their comfort zone. She will then stick to her friend/s (the target) like glue. That’s when the PUA smacks you across the back of the head and says “You were supposed to help me isolate…”

Now clearly this may not be an attractive scenario. Why would anyone want to be a wingman if he cant sarge? To a certain extent I agree. The best way to beat this is by being patient…don’t have patience? Bad Luck….get some…or sooner or later no one will want you as their wingman. Patience is required. First you distract the obstacles. Wait for the PUA to isolate. Once he does that, you are isolated with the obstacle and can then proceed to game her as normal.



Techniques to Enter Set

First of you all as a wing, you need to wait for the hook point before you enter the set. Once the PUA has reached the hook point, then proceed. Sometimes you may need to wait longer, as the PUA may not need you or come in sooner, if an AMOG tries to interfere with the PUA. Generally though, wait for the hook point before going in set.

The three most popular ways on entering sets are as follows:

“Were you guys just talking about” – Style’s method

After a PUA has reached the hook point, the wing now approaches set and directs his question at the PUA…

Wing: Were you guys just talking about…… (this is where the PUA cuts his thread)
PUA: Yeh…how girls lie more than guys….these girls didn’t believe me…BLAH BLAH

From here the PUA updates the wing on what they have discussed (not in too much detail otherwise it looks suss….DER!).

“Have you seen Michelle?” – Toecutter’s method

This technique is genius. It works excellent especially for wings who enter set from afar.

Wing: Hey man, have you seen Michelle?
PUA: Nah, haven’t for a while…(the wing will start to walk off but the PUA then grabs him and says)…hey hang here, I want you to meet these girls. This is Tina and Tanya.
Wing: Hi Girls, Im Wing. Pleasure to meet you.
PUA: Yeh we were just talking about how girls lie more than guys….BLAH BLAH

A little twist that I use....sometimes its not the right time for the wing to enter…or I don’t need a wing. In that case I will say:

Wing: Hey man, have you seen Michelle?
Malibu: Yeh…She is over by the bar…
Wing: Cool…thanks man.

That way the Wing knows that I don’t need a wingman.

OR

Wing: Hey man, have you seen Michelle?
Malibu: Umm…I think she just ducked off to the toilet upstairs…you might find her there.
Wing: Cool…thanks man.

This way, the wing knows that I don’t need a wing yet, but I might in about 5-10 minutes.

You can setup all sorts of code words with your wingmen to communicate what you want to.

Accomplishment Intro – Mystery’s Method

This entering technique is pretty simple and allows the PUA to carry on running the show. Simply have your Wingman walk up to the set and the PUA gives him the best introduction to the set as he can:
PUA: Hey Guys, this Wing…he is (insert accomplishment here)
Girls: Ohhhhhh….ahhhhhh….oh my! Wow!....
Ok that last bit was exaggerated but you get the drift!
This technique is great because sets the frame that you are more into your wing than the girls. It also gives you high value for hanging out with a cool guy and thus more attractive to the set.
Then, as usual, update him on what you've been chatting the chicks about.

What not to say….

Never, ever, ever , ever use an opener when entering set. Say the PUA opens with who lies more. Then a wing enters. Later another two obstacles join the set, so you think to enter as a second wing to distract the second set of obstacles and you go in with who lies more as well….guess what…you have just blown the set. Don’t go in with any openers especially opinion openers. Openers in general will reset the mood towards you as the wing and often you will find that the targets attention will start drifting more to you and doesn’t allow the PUA to game his target correctly. Don’t ever especially use DHV routines. Similar to using openers it may affect the PUA’s ability to sarge his target correctly. As a wing, all you need to do is support your man. So don’t say anything that will draw attention away from him. Agree with him, put in your 2 cents, but let him run the sarge.
A big no no is sexual innuendo. Don’t ever start talking naughty in set as a wing. The risks are 1. you may blow both you and the PUA out of set as the girls may not like what you are talking about and 2. If the girls don’t mind a bit of sex talk, once again it diverts their attention from the PUA and onto you.

Entering a set as a wing

In my experience thus far I’ve noticed two requirements for a wing to enter a set. Firstly, as a PUA, you don’t want to stagger or break communication with the set you open. You want the set to flow through the attract phases without being interrupted or have the chance to be interrupted or intruded upon. For instance, if your running a routine and then turn and call your wing over….that brief moment that you turn your back can be critical and it allows a moment were the target/obstacles can think “do I really want to be in this conversation?” which you don’t want. It also allows any AMOGs to intrude with a higher amount of energy than you. You don’t want that. It is up to the wing to enter the set. The PUA must never break or stagger communication.

In saying that it is also critical for the wing not stagger communication when entering the set. It is for that reason that as a wing you allow your partner (the PUA who opened the set) to verbally bring you into conversation. You need only be at the right place at the right time. Enter the set at the right moment and allow the PUA to introduce you to the set.

Secondly, you need energy. In the example above I mentioned that the AMOG could come in with more energy than you. The wing needs to enter with a high amount of energy…but not higher energy than the PUA who opened the set. Often picking the critical moment when and how to enter can increase or decrease chances of success.

Countless times I have seen wings enter set with way too much energy and destroy the set. As a wingman, know your energy levels, and if you need to tone down your energy levels then do it accordingly for each PUA you wing. Sometimes the energy level may not only differ from PUA to PUA but also from set to set. Therefore make a habit of analyzing the sets you enter before you enter them and learn how to read energy levels. This may take some practice but can be a very important point to remember.

He who opens the set, owns the set

This is probably seen as the number one rule between PUA and his wingman/men. However, let me stress….you must open the set….correctly….if you wish to own the set. Winking and poking your tongue at your target to gain her attention before opening does not constitute opening a set. Nor does using banter lines or one line ice breakers. Similarly if you have used an opener on a set but have been blown out, in my opinion you have not correctly opened so you do not own the set. For you to successfully own any set you must first open correctly and reach the hook point.  Wingmen should not be entering into a set until the PUA has reached the hook point. Once the hook point is reached the wing can then enter set.


Never ever steal the target

This is one of the most important rules. Never steal the target. End of story. Do not use game tactics on the target either. I have seen guys sarging as wings and they run DHV routines on the target right after they have entered set. Umm…hello? No. Don’t do this. Let the PUA who is running the sarge work the material…you are the wing. Support him.

I have, however, been in sets where the target becomes attracted to one of my wings. Similarly , I have been a wing and the target has begun to direct her IOI’s toward me. So what do you do? Change targets? In these instances, it should be discussed with the PUA who opened the set as to what should happen there after. As the PUA who opened the set your inner game should be solid enough not get fussed over whether or not a target is attracted to one of your wings or not. If you do get upset over then this will only cause harm to your mindset and it risks every set you try to open thereafter. Approach a situation like this in a mature fashion. After all…women do make their own choices and what they feel should count as well. Its not always about you!

Not specifying the target

If a PUA opens a set, Never steal the target. In saying that, as a PUA who opens the set it is up to you to let your wingmen know who the target is. Ive sarged with guys who have opened sets without deciding who the their target is. That’s bullshit…How can any PUA enter set with the correct frame of mind without knowing who he is going to sarge. Similarly, some PUA’s choose multiple targets….bullocks. If there is no specific target then there can not be any specific obstacles…..so what is a wingman supposed to do, stand there and twiddle his thumbs while the PUA decides what to do? I don’t think so.

So lets rephrase this rule….Never steal the target…that has been called by the PUA! If a PUA hasn’t chosen his target then theoretically the set has not been opened correctly and you are free to call your own target. However, this is not a recommended scenario. The short to it….dont open a set unless you have called target and advised your wingman

How many wings do you need?

2sets – Alone or with a wing?

With 2 sets I often don’t need a wing at all. I like the challenge of taking on two girls. What I will then do is DHV to both of them. Firstly, to attract my target, and secondly to befriend the obstacle…then I mentally isolate my target and go for a number close or time bridge or both. This is more for advanced gamers so most of the time you may need a wing to help you isolate the target.

There are two ways that you can go about this….entering with your wing, which is not recommended or entering alone and then your wing joins you as normal. If you go into an 2set with your wing. Your wing will then run immediate interference on the obstacle while you work the target. However, if your wing cant keep it up, when the obstacle then begins to loses interest and starts to cling to her friend and more than likely she will try and take her away, whether the target likes you or not. Furthermore, the obstacle will think that the PUA is as of low value as she thinks the wing is.

Now when you enter the set alone, you work the target and befriend the obstacle. That way the obstacle knows you are of high value. When you bring your wing in…you use the Accomplishment Intro so that your wing gains some credibility. The obstacle will more than likely trust your friend since you are now of high value to her, your wing will equally be of value. That way there is less chance that the obstacle will pull the target away from you when you isolate.

Group Theory

When you have multiple obstacles generally you may need more than one wing. However it depends from situation to situation.

FFM 3set – For this set you only need one wing. When you isolate your wing will occupy the girl and guy without any trouble. The girl wont feel like she is being hit on when she is in the company of a male friend so there is little chance that the target will be pulled away.

FFF 3set – One wing can be used for this set, however if the wing begins to sarge one of the girls, the other girl may get bored and interfere with the target. In this instance the wing will have broken away in his own set with 2 girls and will need to pull in a second wing of his own. If no other wings are available…DON’T SARGE THE OBSTACLES.

FFFF 4 set – 2 wings required. Bring one in first and then allow the wing to bring in the second wing after the set is comfortable with him.

5-6 sets – 2 wings will be required. However, I would bring them both in at the same time after you have sarged the entire group.

7 sets and beyond – depending on the structure and logistics of the set, you will need 2-3 wings…never bring in 3 wings at the same time. Let 2 come in first and then the 3rd can join shortly after. In saying that however if you have any pivots or pawns (female friends) you can merge sets and that will allow you to isolate well.

Wing before Women

This is something that almost every aPUA forgets. As discussed your job as a wing is to support the PUA. You need to be living proof that your friend is a great guy. I’ve seen some wings, who in set decide they want to be humorous and funny, so they start making jokes directed toward the PUA.

The PUA and the wing are a partnership. You wing each other when you sarge. That’s why you always, always, always put “Wing before Women”. Your wing is more important to you than a girl you just met. And if he is not then you’re putting the girl on a pedestal, which translates into an inner game issue.

• Never disagree with your wing in set
• Always respect your wing in set
• Never under any circumstances make jokes directed at or ridiculing your wing
• Never argue with your wing.
• Never call your wing names
• You should try to brag (not too much) about your wing in set. This shows that he is a cool guy.
• Your wings feelings are more important than the girls you just met.

Bear in mind that this mentality ONLY applies either at the meeting location or until after a lot of comfort has been built. If you have been seeing a girl for a week and invested a lot of time into her, if you still carry the “bros before hoes” mentality then you will find that she will lose trust in you and it will become harder to close her.

Different Styles of winging

This is something I feel strong about. As I said previously winging is an art form almost as much as being a PUA in itself. I realized that each one of us has a different style of winging game as we do our normal PU style of game.

One night, a while ago when I was still breaking into the PU scene, I was with Whisper and Mystic at the Opera Bar under Sydney’s Infamous Opera House. We were meeting up with another aPUA whom we hadn’t met before. It was the second time I had met a fellow rAFC from the community other than my wings. I noticed it more that night….our games are different...totally different....so apart from the usual wing men rules we needed to be winged differently.

Mystic was running game on a two set by the bar with Whisper winging. Mystic's set crumbled in a way he didn’t want it to. It seems that when Whisper was winging he actually amogged Mystic without even realizing it. However when whisper wings me in the same way....it actually boosts my own game and thus boosts my alpha male status in the group.

It can be said that a wing's game is different to the the PUA's game....and it changes from PUA to PUA.

My game is calibrated in one way for whisper to wing type 1...however if whisper wings Mystic....well mystics game is different to mine and he needs to be winged type 2......

The moral of the story is that ever wing needs to calibrate his winging game to suit the PUA he is winging, just as much as we need to calibrate our own game.


Pivots and Girls as Wings

Girls ultimately provide a lot of social proof when using them as wings. Generally when you sarge with a pivot you will find that a lot of girls may open you. It also allows you to come across a lot more indirect when you open. Girls may initially assume that you are your pivots boyfriend, so they will feel safe that your not trying to pick them up. Thus their protection barrier does not rise and it allows you to DHV yourself a lot better.

The problem with having girls as pivots or pawns is they may not be as structured or as analytical in the sarge with you. Women are emotional, and if they get a sudden urge to become jealous of the girl you are sarging, they may “AFOG” you right there and then!

Similarly if your pivot/pawn is enjoying her night and decides she wants to get on the drink…..well….there goes your sarging session!

I guess it depends on you as a person and what your sarging style is like. Personally, I am very structured and I like to remain in control. Therefore a wing that has a strong insight in game and in structure is important to me. Other PUA’s may be more natural or less analytical as I am and may prefer a girl to gain the social proof and then freestyle from there!

Basically there are different rules when you sarge with a girl. With a wingman you should disagree with him or ridicule him because it may potentially make you DLV yourself. However with a pivot you can tease her and even neg her slightly, using combinations of neg hits and banter lines throughout the sarge and you will come off as a playful guy, ultimately triggering certain attraction switches in your target.

Similarly you can bring her into set with you, she doesn’t need to enter set as carefully as a wing might need to. Furthermore, if you successfully get into comfort with your target, you can also use your pivot by introducing jealousy plot lines (provided you have spent enough time with your target and she has invested a lot of time in you).

Sarging with an AFC as your wing

I have always had a top wing. I started GAME with him and he is always a top wing for me. Mid January last year another mate of mine, Whisper...actually he has been my friend since we were 11...decided to get in the game. I went through this whole phase of training him and teaching him about game and I realize that everyone has a different winging style just the same that every one has a different pick up style.

What I learned is that if you are sarging with an AFC... YOU need to change your style to suit the way he wings. Go out with whoever you want to wing you and learn how he socializes, his moves, everything he does in front of men, women, dogs and cats!...Use his strengths (and weaknesses) and slightly alter your gaming style to suit.

What happens when your wingman’s game breaks down?

From time to time it may occur where your wing’s game will break down, or he will not be distracting the obstacles enough for you, or he may not be distracting the obstacles at all! Most of us would more than likely stop sarging, or turn away briefly and start running strategy and criticism on your wing trying to correct him or figure out why it has occurred. Doing this never gets good results because you are destroying the mood of the set and your own mindset.
Furthermore, it is also bad because your are making your wing look and feel beta. This will lower his confidence in set and only force his game to breakdown further. Therefore you should always avoid giving advice to your wingman in-field, and save it for after the sarge. Taking advice is required though during any other activity. This will be effective, because the advice is helpful and allows preparation for the next sarging session. Besides, you should realize that the small amount of strategy that you can discuss will not change your wingman's game enough in such a short period of time to effect substantial change in his game. So just take a breather go have a game of pool and start again once both you and your wing have returned to full alpha status.

What happens if you do something wrong in set?

If you are in set as a wing and begin saying anything of the above, and the attention is drawn to you, expect the PUA to start AMOGing you himself. If you risk blowing out the set then he may need to in order to recover. If that happens, exit the set straight away…DO NOT try and amog the PUA to make yourself look good…just get out and allow another wing to enter the set.











Credit to: Mystery, Malibu, Style, Toecutter

The AMOG. Alpha Male of the Group. Otherwise known as: THAT Guy.

We've all run into them and had to deal with them (or we get dealt with).

I wanted to cover the topic in a bit more detail and give a comprehensive guide on the subject.

I have found that the best way to avoid getting Amogged is to be the AMOG. And by this I don't mean be a dick, I mean be the alpha male, as there can only be one. Now most of what you are about to read applies to sets that already have guys in it. Whether they know each other or not (a bunch of friends, or HB's that have some AFC's hitting on them) doesn't matter. However, this advice also applies to guys trying to enter your set as well.
So to start off: PREVENTION

Most AMOG's can prevented. Guys will try to assert their authority when they feel there is a perceived threat to their masculinity. Whether this means you are talking to a girl in their group, or stealing the spotlight from them. It is natural. Their desire to dominate kicks in and you will feel the brunt of it. So this should be disarmed from the beginning.

1) Open the guys in a set first.
Going in with an opinion opener and it is a mixed set? Open the guys! Use the vodka opener which works well. Bond with the guys in the set first. If you are good enough, the girls in the set will enter into the conversation. Now they are entering into YOUR set, not the other way around. Or you can bring the girls into the conversation, in fact you can even ask one of the guys to "get a female opinion" on the topic. Have HIM bring her into the set.

Use a wing.
When possible, not only open the guys first, but have your wing enter the set and also engage the guys there. This signals that you are not there alone, and reinforces the idea that you are there to hang out and have a good time. NOT that you are trying to pick up THEIR women, because you are ignoring the women and are engrossed in a conversation with your wing and the guys.

Use humor
Be charming. Get the guys laughing. You want to them to quickly reach the conclusion that you are a "cool guy." In fact, many times I will do this and the guys I am talking to will turn to the women in the set and say, "You HAVE to meet this guy, come here." This is pure gold. You now have their approval and social proof. This is even better than an accomplishment intro from a wing.
If a guy is entering your set, a simple, "Do we know you????" is sufficient to disarm the guy and make you and the girl seem like a couple.
But alas. Sometimes, an AMOG is an AMOG and even using these three basic prevention techniques, you will still run into problems. So, what do you do next? Their are several routes you can take:

Out Alpha- Ignore
Plain and simple. You continue to dominate the set. Ignore the comments coming from the AMOG peanut gallery and control the situation. The best way to do this is to bring the party to the group. By this I mean, if that group is having a better time with you there then they were before you arrived, then no matter what the AMOG does, the group will not want you to leave. In fact, they will look negatively on the guy trying to fuck with you. In this scenario, you are ignoring the AMOG and relying on the fun you are bringing to the group. Allowing the group to deal with the AMOG.

Out Alpha - Integrate
Again you are bringing the party to the group, but in this instance it is clear that ignoring the AMOG is not going to make the persistent fucker go away. He just goes on and on and will not stop. Maybe at this point you just want to fuck him up, rip off his eyelids and leaving him rolling on the floor in pain. Or perhaps that's just me. Either way, don't. Try to bring him into the group, steer the topic towards things that the AMOG has some input on. I am not talking about bowing down to the AMOG here, but rather allowing him to have a good time in YOUR set. Are you addressing him enough? Asking him any questions? There will come a time to isolate the target, but first you must deal with this obstacle.

Out Alpha - Engage
Ok, so you measured up the situation and realized ignoring the fucktard isn't going to work and he seems to have no desire to play nice with others. Now you have to engage him, but playfully. Begin integrating him, whether he wants it or not, but now you can start throwing a few jokes at his expense out there. Is he an intern? Does he work at McDonalds? Is he wearing a shirt that just screams, "Fuck with me, I am a dork!"? There is generally plenty of material there. Sometimes even a, "That's it, he's cut off, no more drinks for him." is enough. You want to be subtle here. The time for, "Hey pumpkin, why don't you go fix your makeup" isn't here yet. But you do want to get the AMOG qualifying to you at this point. Start asking him questions that makes him start to seek your approval.
Finally, if you tried all this, and the guy is clearly determined to get rid of you, you have a choice. You can isolate the guy, "Hey, can I talk to you for a minute?" and be straightforward with him. Or you can call him out in front of the group with, "Well, apparently AMOG over here seems to have an issue with me, but it was a pleasure meeting all of you." If you have added value to this group, at this point they will object to your leaving. And this objection from the group will be the final blow into the heart of the AMOG.
Now you can be much more sarcastic and direct with someone entering into your set that the HB's do not know. You don't want them there, so you can try to befriend them, but you don't want them hanging around. You can have your wing occupy them, but that sucks for your wing. So lines like, "Do we know you?" and "How cute!" and then whisper in one of the girls ears something about the guy that is 'cute', she will chuckle he will feel like an idiot, or "Just in time, dude buy us a round of drinks." Etc. Keep it playful, but your goal here is to get rid of the intruder.
But if all else fails then yes, use your wit and completely destroy the AMOG, there are a lot of posts out there for suggested one-liners and things you can say. Work at getting good at coming up with ones on the spot. However, keep in mind if you try everything else this should be used in only a small percentage of situations. Remember, you want to avoid a physical fight here, not start one!
In the end, you always want to maintain your frame. Don't let any AMOG irritate you so much that you get angry or physical.

In fact, an AMOG is an excellent way for you to show DHV. Use your dominance of him to turn on yet another attraction switch in your target. Remember: Confident-Funny - Yes. Charming-Funny - Yes. Cocky-Funny - NO! 

Credit to: Sovereign

Q- What is one-itis?

A- One-itis is defined as an infatuation with another individual who does not return those same feelings. One-itis victims can usually be seen pining over a single individual, constantly overanalyzing every situation, and asking his friends what he can do "to get this girl". One-itis is generally seen a malady because the "relationship" in question does not produce similar feelings from all individuals involved.

Q- How do I get over my one-itis?

A- Women tend to get over a guy when she's away from him. Men, on the other hand, have intensified feelings about a girl when she's around. You know what this means, right? Do the girl ritual.
Step 1- Delete her number and name from her cell phone. If she calls, tell her you "have to do ---. I'll talk to you later."
Step 2- Rid yourself of any pictures of her. Throw them in a deep closet. You're only defeating yourself by keeping them around.
Step 3- Delete your e-mail transactions and her messager screenname, in addition to any online connections that you may reach her at. Don't block her. You don't hate her; you just don't care anymore. She is not a special vagina.
Step 4- Avoid places that she frequents for a period of time. If you work with her, that's your fault for getting involved with your fucking coworker.
Step 5-You're not angry at her; you're just moving on to bigger and better.
Step 6- Surround yourself with friends. Sarge immediately. NOW you position yourself to GFTOW.

Q- But she's special; she's different; she's perfect for me.

A- As of the last census, there are 6.5 billion people in the world. As the rough percentage of women is 53% of the total population, there are almost 3.5 billion women out there. Are you telling me that you just coincidentally tripped and fell into "the one"? There's a statistically higher chance of being struck by lightning three times than that being your "one special girl".

Q- Then why is she "perfect" for me?

A- Because males tend to rosetint and accentuate positive characteristics of women they feel they have a chance with. Try being critical of her one day. Notice how she doesn't shave her arms, or how she sports lovehandles, or has no common sense.

Q- Why do I feel that I have a chance?

A- She was either nice to you once or is still nice to you, but won't have sex with you because she likes feeling wanted. Thus, she likes having you around so that she can feel sexy, but she's not going to have sex with you. I've seen it work ONCE. ONE TIME. That's a single instance out of hundreds. Don't take the risk. Don't feed her ego and kick yourself in the balls day in and day out. Her bowel movements don't smell like lilacs. She's not special. You, on the other hand, are special, because when you realize that you can get ANY girl, one single girl means nothing to you.

Q- Why is one-itis bad?

A- Because a normal, healthy relationship consists of two (or more) individuals fulfilling each other and strengthening each individual. One-itis is one individual improving their confidence at the expense of another person. You can do better.

Q- How can I make sure I never get one-itis again?

A- Unlike what you would normally do in most situations (stop talking to women altogether), the goal here is to remain in contact with as many women as possible. This allows you to keep a "there's always more fish in the sea" perspective. Experience a lot of women, have sex with them if you choose, and attempt to hold a MLTR (multiple long term relationship). Try and balance two or three girls at the same time.

Q- So if I forget about her and move on, then I'll get her?

A- Get that out of your mind. Time and time again, I've seen buddies who only go after girls in hopes that the girl he's "forgotten" about will get jealous and chase him. Not gonna happen.
...and if it does happen, once you come around, she'll drop you again in seconds. Accept the inevitability that she has to be tossed aside.

Credit to: Legonz