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From my documents I think that you have picked up that I am a Methodological Materialistic Evolutionist.  What this is, is a person who believes that God created the Universe and then pretty much left it alone.  This is the second to last step in a progression from a flat earther (someone who believes the earth is flat and is covered by a solid firmament, the earth is flat and the center of the universe as the Bible pronounces, believe it or not some of these people do exist) and Philosophical Materialistic Evolutionists which states that there is no supernatural.  I believe God works in mysterious ways and those ways are the natural ways things come about.  I think it is amazing that God can exert His will by basically doing nothing.  This shows extreme competency in the creation act of a supreme being rather than “Miracle Max” doing quick fix it jobs to patch holes in creation like in Time Bandits.

 

This article is not to make a case for Creationism or Evolution, that has been done before, but rather to point out the differences in the way the two go about the argument.  When I was younger I invited some Jehovah’s witnesses to my home to a lively debate on the subject.  I was quickly disillusioned by these individuals arguments.  When I questioned as to why fossils dated back so far when the world was only 6000 years old, I was treated to an answer that “God put those fossils in the ground with the right amount of carbon 14”.  I was knocked back time and again with a “God did it, and you can not detect God so you can’t prove me wrong” type of argument. 

 

Sure, I was born yesterday and the real world and all my memories were implanted by God.  Only he and I exist and I can’t prove otherwise.  That is a little extreme however there is no way you can disprove that type of logic.  I tired of our meetings and decided that these people could not be helped and we had reached an impasse.  Most creationists are not THAT extreme and want some explanations themselves.  However it is my experience that most creationists want the burden to be on the evolutionists.  They delight in trying to disprove particular portions of evolution while not offering up any alternatives.  Actually, scientists would be ecstatic if someone gave them valid proofs that parts of the theory are false.  This would force them to revise the theory and thus make it stronger.  However most of the accusations are week and in some cases intentionally leave out information in order to sway the reader.

 

For instance, there are claims that “there has never proven to be a useful mutation”.  This is just outright false.  The current animals inhabiting this earth have been adapting to the current conditions for quite a long time.  Quite recently there were animals adapted to current conditions or Ice age conditions.  When the Ice age ended, the Ice age only animals had to either adapt, move, or go extinct.  Some made it to the poles while the large non swimming insulated animals died off.  So what we are left with today are basically animals that are almost perfectly suited for their environment.  Of course any mutation that leads them off the path of almost perfection is not going to be a useful mutation. 

 

Researchers have been bombarding fruit flies with radiation in order to accelerate the  mutation rate.  You wind up with “deformed” fruit flies.  Lets say that you have a deformed fruit fly with larger sharp hooks on its appendages.  Right now, larger hooks take more energy to grow and so would be a liability to the fruit fly and they could not compete.  But, say that all fruit started to grow thicker skin.  Then, these fruit flies would have the advantage over the traditional fruit fly and take over because it would be easier for them to get food.  Now the same mutation has gone from being a detrimental mutation to being the reason for the fruit flies survival. 

 

In Mexico there are what people call “dog faced boys” .  They have extremely thick long facial hair all over their faces making them look like werewolves.  Obviously a mutation.  In Mexico this isn’t such a great thing.  However, imagine the Eskimo who wouldn’t love to have this mutation.  The particular mutations validity depends on environmental pressures. 

 

Ok, I see the argument for “this is only genetic variability”.  So far I don’t think anyone denies the types of changes that I have discussed and feel that we have not changed any species.  However, as time goes by, we can imagine other changes coming about.  Lets go back to our fruit fly.  Now, the implications of thicker skin on fruit need further improvement from the fruit fly.  Some flies are going to be bigger than others.  The bigger flies are selected because they are stronger and there fore can break through the skin easier.  The flies with just the larger hooks were intermediate and this period would not last long because other improvements were on the way making them obsolete too.  Then perhaps some flies come along with a mutation for large hacking mandibles also.  The flies with large claws, large bodies, and large mandibles will win out.  If on an island for instance, none of the original fruit flies will be able to compete and eventually die out.  So will the intermediate versions.  Now, the fruit fly is perfectly adapted to its environment again and will stay in this steady state for a long time. 

 

Now, If we were to look at the fossil record for our fictitious island, we would find many of the original fruit flies, very few of the intermediate types, and many of the new type.  This is just what we see in the fossil record.  After a few thousand years, these fruit flies pick up many other small variations in their genes and would eventually be unable to breed with the original main land fruit flies.  If we were to come across these two types of flies, we might say this: “Humm... this fly is twice as big, has huge cutting claws and huge mandibles, they do not mate with normal flies so we have a different species.”.

 

If that sounded plausible, try this one on for size.  Some monkeys are cut off from the trees and are forced to live in the savanna.  This probably happened many times.  Every time they were killed off by the lions.  However this time there is a monkey who had a genetic defect so that he had to stand more erect for a longer time than his fellow monkeys.  This would be a problem swinging around in the trees, but here, he can spot the predators earlier and thus his band survives.  His genes are prized by the females as the one who keeps them away from danger and he passes this previous “defect” along.  As the years go by, the one who can stand upright is the one who survives.  Now,  a baby is born with a slightly larger brain.  This extra cerebral material is better at picking out patterns.  And thus he can see the predators even more easily (have you ever wondered why you can see the lion in the documentary but the gazelle has no clue?). The sun is hot now that the trees no longer are here to offer shade.  So, children born with more sweat glands and less hair will be preferred to the more hairy. They will be able to travel farther than those who get heat exhaustion.  And so on and so on.

 

A chimp only differs from our DNA by 2%.  If you really think of what changes need to be made to a chimpanzee to make him human, it really isn’t that much.  Reduce the size of the hair to allow for sweat glands (we have the same amount of hair, a chimps is only thicker), change the limb proportions slightly, modify the feet for walking, Modify the pelvis (all three for upright walking), modify the hands for better grasping (tools to fight those pesky predators), get taller (see over the grass), protrude the nose (to breath the drier air of the savanna), protrude the skin on the inside of the mouth (not sure off hand what that’s for), grow the brain (better communication when there is little cover, tool use, and 1,001 other uses).  There would be no advantage to becoming stronger since we would need to vastly improve our strength to even start competing with a lion.  Anyone who tries to fight one will die.  The limited energy we have is better invested in the brain (which consumes 30% of your calories).   A little more brain goes a long way in the form of early detection, communication, and evasion.

 

Each one of these things can be taken as genetic variation as individual events.  But is it hard to believe that these things could all happen given 4.5 million years?  But there can be no doubt that the end result is a different species.

 

Back to the debate, I do believe that I spent considerable effort to try to convince you that evolution is possible.  The difference between creation and evolution is that anyone around the world can study the fossil record, study the anatomy of living creatures, visit the zoo, and come up with the same conclusions about evolution.  However in order to believe in creation, (Christian in specific here) someone must make you aware that Moses went to the top of a mountain where God reveled the secrets of creation to him.  Then you must believe that God didn’t dumb it down for Moses and Moses didn’t dumb it down for his followers. 

 

That leads me to the problem of creation in schools.  I do not advocate this.  First of all, for the reason I mentioned in the previous paragraph, and second, creationists wish for equal time.  Who is the school system to decide which man on the mountain to follow?  There are hundreds of creation stories around the world which are equally believed by their followers.  Think about it.  If you are a Christian, why do you believe in your version of creation.  Because it is right?  No.  You don’t know it is right.  You take it on faith to be correct.  Why?  Because that’s what your parents believed in.  That’s what you were brought up with as a child.  Or, that’s what you promised you would believe in if you were converted.  You take it on faith.  Why should we teach this in school over “the cosmic egg” that someone from Finland might believe in?  If we teach one arbitrary, theory based on faith alone, we should teach them all in the interest of “equal time”.  Heck, maybe Xenu did kill all those aliens 75 million years ago.  Would you want The school teaching your children scientology just because it is what some people believe?  Better stick to something that anyone can come up with and not just the “chosen ones”. 

 

With evolution, we can at least live with knowing the probability of correctness.  For a theological view of creation, the chance of us determining the probability of correctness is absolutely zero.  As far as the Bible goes, just because more people believe in it than any other theory does not give it any more credibility.   Everyone believed “the world was flat”.  Everyone believed “the earth was the center of the Universe”.   Everyone believed “heavy objects fall faster than lighter ones”.  It takes the scientific process to separate beliefs from truth.   At least with science we are actively working to find answers and looking at evidence rather than taking someone else’s word for it.

 

And as far as peoples faith in the Bible goes, when was the last time your children were killed because they cursed you (Leviticus 20:9)? 

 

I’m just going to let that one hang.





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