.:: Terry VS Ryu ::.

last updated: 15th October, 2008

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Ok, so I've been going on the net and I have been seeing countless debates between fans over who would win in a fight between Terry and Ryu (most now agree Terry will win, by the way). Well below is my take on this. I am not saying anything...just giving a brief over view of their careers. That alone should tell the story. Oh and if you are such an ignorant loser who can't take facts and figures and keeps saying, "I don't care about official stuff or ratings X cannot beat Y!" then just leave and remain in your ignorant sanctuary. 

For the rest of you who are mature enough...Check it out~

In Depth analysis:

-experience: Terry's been fighting for well over 25 years now. He was even fighting on the streets when Jeff discovered him and Andy. He lived for a few years with Jeff but at the age of 10 Jeff was killed by his "future personal bitch" Geese. Since then Terry's been fighting on the streets of Southtown that is loaded with good fighters from all disciplines. Terry fought every day for 10 years to prepare him for his fight with Geese. He won against Geese at the age of 20 and then still remained on the streets. By MOTW he's STILL on the streets and is 35 years old. That is a whooping 25 years on the streets...and almost 30 if you count his years fighting prior to Jeff finding him. Since he was fighting EVERYDAY in those 10 years he was preparing for his fight with Geese, and he fought in street brawls he alone has definitely fought more than 10,000 opponents in that time alone if not more. On a worse case scenario (that being terry fighting only one person every day on those 10 years) he still fought 3650 opponents. But we know this is not true because Terry fought ALL day.

Then you have 25 more years of fighting not only in a city full of fighter (Southtown) but also the world over. That is DEFINITELY more fighters that Terry has faced than Ryu…without a shadow of doubt. Most definitely he's fought a lot more opponents than Ryu since he's been not only fighting for longer but also across the world like Ryu and in Southtown itself where there are fighters roaming all the time. Also the only way to make something out of yourself in South town was being a good fighter so definitely there were lots of people to fight. Ryu's only been on the streets since the age of 23 and he's been a dojo nerd for all the years before. You have around 30 years of fighting experience versus 10. Not to mention that Terry has also been entering the annual KoF tournaments since 1992.

-speed: no question about it. Terry's a lot faster than Ryu. In fact buster wolf and shining knuckle not only take more life than shinshoryuken but are A LOT faster. They are both a blur. In the regular moves, not a single move that Ryu pulls off is faster than burn knuckle. In fact in the profile of FF2, the main attraction of the show was “Krauser’s godly power against Terry’s dizzying speed”. Some people are inclined to bring up that Ryu can dodge bullets. However, it should be pointed out that Terry being able to take on a whole battalion of heavily armed NESTS soldiers by himself and actually enjoying it would mean that Terry can not only dodge bullets but also get kicks out of it while doing it. Anyway, pertaining to moves, Ryu is, without a doubt, a lot slower than Terry Bogard.

[Notice also that when Terry does the shining knuckle, he blurs out of vision. That alone is proof that he is faster than Ryu. Notice also, that the SFA anime is not canon. Canonically, it says that Ryu can dodge bullets but he has never done so.]

-power: this one is arguable but I’ll put my money on Ryu. However, the power difference isn't too much, really. While Ryu only managed to scar Sagat because of the dark-hadou in his fists during the metsu-shoryuken, Terry scarred Geese heavily with all his blows. Every scar on Geese's body is actually from Terry's blows and it wasn't any evil intents that did it. In comparison to that. That and the fact that according to one source, Terry can "easily overturn cars and huge trucks". I'll still give power to Ryu though.

[Notice that while SF3 Ryu is as described as as strong as SF1 Evil Ryu it doesn't mean that he is as powerful. Japanese media tends to use "strong" to describe "skill" more almost always and we see this when we in Marvel vs SF1, your character says "for now let the strong survive" to Apocolypse despite the dude being 10 times your size. Strong simply refers to skill level. So basically, SF3 Ryu isn't phsyically as strong as Evil Ryu but about as skilled.]

-career: you have 25-30 years of fighting against Ryu’s 10 years. Ryu also suffered multiple loses to even non-god tier opponents, even to those fighters who are below his own level like Ken who is one tier lower than Ryu. On top of all that Ryu's caliber of opponents is nothing too out of the ordinary save for Gouki and Oro and the fights ended with him losing horribly. Terry on the other hand has fought Geese, Krauser, Geese, Grant, Rock, Mr. Karate, Kyo, Iori, K', Ash, etc. etc. etc. etc. A mighty nasty list of opponents to go against. Yes, Terry has suffered his share of defeats though but I find his competition level stiffer.

Iori alone can beat Gouki (for those cringing right now and have the SF bug up their ass slowly biting its way up further, go to Iori's section and read the part where I talk about Gouki fighting Iori). Bison is no where near at the level of Orochi or even Goenitz. Heck Omega Rugal would rape Bison easily. Want reasons: Bison was forced to retreat from fighting losers like Cammy and the dolls who are lowtiers while Omega Rugal took on the entire cast of KoF95 and was still winning (the cast that, however, excluded Iori). Aside from Bison, Gouki and Oro EVERYONE else is a tier below Ryu and still a some of them either forced Ryu to his limit or even beat him. With his mightiest move, the shinshoryuken, Ryu couldn't even beat Hugo. Terry on the other has never even been beaten by god tiers like Nightmare Geese and Grant. Terry outclasses Ryu in this department too.

Terry's got a better "fighting portfolio" than Ryu. Plus aside from Bison, Oro (who wasn’t fighting him seriously) and Gouki (who also wasn't even fighting seriously either) Ryu hasn't faced that high tier characters. Hugo was mid tier. Ken is below Ryu. Sagat is probably more even (and he even defeated Psycho Ryu who was Ryu with a powerup from Bison). Yet he was defeated by them all or was pushed to his limit. Bison, Oro and Gouki defeated Ryu easily. Ken defeated Ryu. Mokuto put up a good fight against him. Hugo pushed him far enough to do the shinshoryuken...possibly even defeated Ryu. Sagat beat him in SF1 and defeated Psycho Ryu in SFA3.

most of Terry's opponents are the same tier, or in the case of Kyo and Iori (one tier and two tiers higher in my opinion), yet his performance was always good and they never beat him down easy.

*you reading this Brainy?*

Aside from that Terry's fought Krauser (very high tier in FF timeline), Yamazaki (god tier or very high tier in FF timeline), Geese,  Grant and he defeated them all ONE ON ONE. In fact, Grant was practically a meta-human because of his heart affected in a way that supplied his body with more blood than usual resulting in a peek-human body with accelerated strength, power, speed, reaction time and stamina (think Mitsoumi Takayanagi from Tenjou Tenge). Terry still beat him one-on-one through endurance, speed and skill.

Did I hear “plot device”? PIS? Well then I’ll answer: This is as much of a plot device as Ryu making Bison retreat with a shoryuken isn't it?

All evidence proves that Terry is the superior fighter. To those saying “two words: dark hadou” then I suggest that you realize that not only has Ryu locked it away and has stopped using it, but also the fact that Terry has taken on and defeated worse. Fighting someone on terrible odds isn’t too new for Terry and in that there is nothing different for Terry. With more experience, greater speed than both of these, arguably more power and definitely more heart...Terry is definitely the better fighter than Ryu day in day out. "ARE YOU OKAY?! BUSTA WORF!!!!"

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.:: Terry VS Ken ::.

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The other thing I've been hearing is a debate between Ken and Terry: who'd win? Below is the same table. And once again...immature losers please fuck off.

Further In Depth Analysis:

-experience: ken's not even a street fighter. So forget about this one. 30 Years of street fighting against a non-street fighter. Yeah right!

-Speed: Terry again without a doubt. NOT ONE move or special of Ken is as fast as burn knuckle or as fast as buster wolf and shining knuckle. Not one regular move of Ken is as fast as burn knuckle. Ken will be faster than Ryu though.

-power: aside from multiple hits, Ken cannot even knock the opponent off his feet with most of his moves. Also NOT ONE of his specials take more than Power Geyser…let alone buster wolf, power stream, shining knuckle. on top of that, Ken has no power feats.

-career: you have a whooping 30 years of street fighting experience against a non-street fighter, whose been fighting for 10 years with defeats and his known fights are mainly against rookies and school girls. Please.

Ken's notable fights were with Ryu, Bison (with Sakura helping him), Karin, Sakura and Sean. The guy practically has comfort spray painted on his ass, and his only notable fights are with school girls and rookies. Yes he's fought in the martial arts tourney of US, but then if one is inclined to claim Terry's level of competition in a city full of fighters (Southtown) was too lame, I can very well tell you that for all we know ken's been fighting school girls even in the US martial arts tourney. On top of that, in one of the US tournaments, Ken was pushed far enough by an unknown fighter for Ken to invent the shoryureppa in a desperate gambit.

Ken loses to Terry on all levels.

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