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Gregory Z. Payne writes:
I light this candle in the honor of the last POW/MIA casuality of the Vietnam War 1973:

U.S.N. COMMANDER HARLEY HUBERT HALL
F4-J Phantom fighter jet pilot
Vancouver, Washington

In dedication and in honor from
The Vietnam Veterans of America
Chapter 512
Vancouver, Washington

"We Salute You, Sir!"
Author: Gregory Z. Payne
E-mail: tetee199thlib@usa.com       Added: March 29, 2008
 
             
    

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      U.S.N. COMMANDER HARLEY H. HALL

                         

     

               

                         

HARLEY HUBERT HALL's  PENTIGON REPORT ON POW/MIA STATUS

                    Recovered HARLEY H HALL Recovered  
HALL, HARLEY HUBERT REMAINS RETURNED 06/95 (I.D. disputed)
Name: Harley Hubert Hall Rank/Branch: O5/US Navy, pilot Unit: 
Fighter Squadron 143,
USS ENTERPRISE 
(CV-65) Date of Birth: 23 December 1937 (Broken Bow NE) Home City
of Record: 
Vancouver WA Date of Loss: 27 January 1973 Country of Loss: South 
Vietnam Loss Coordinates: 165129N 1071023E (YO345650) 
Status (in 1973): Prisoner of War Category: 1 Acft/Vehicle/Ground
: F4J Other Personnel In Incident: Phillip A. Kientzler 
(released 1973) 
Source: Compiled by Homecoming II Project 01 April  1990 from 
one or more of the following: raw data from U.S. Government 
agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published 
sources, interviews. Updated by the P.O.W. NETWORK 2008.
 
                                   
REMARKS: KIENTZLER TOLD HALL KILLED
SYNOPSIS: CDR Harley H. Hall was the commanding officer of 
Fighter Squadron 143 onboard 
the aircraft carrier USS ENTERPRISE. On January 27, 1973 he and 
his Radar Intercept Officer (RIO), LTCDR Philip A. 
Kientzler, launched in their F4J Phantom fighter aircraft on an 
attack mission against North Vietnamese supplies and logistic 
vehicles 15 miles northwest of Quang Tri, South Vietnam. Hall 
and Kientzler were under the direction 
of an OV10 Forward Air Controller 
(FAC).CDR Hall's aircraft came under intense anti-aircraft fire 
while attacking several trucks and was hit. He made an attempt 
to fly back out to the safety of the sea, but minutes later the 
aircraft caught fire on the port wing and fuselage. Both Hall 
and his co-pilot, LCDR Philip A. Kintzler ejected at 4,000 feet 
and were seen to land 100 feet apart near a village on an island 
in the Dam Cho Chua and Cua Viet Rivers. CDR Hall was seen moving
about on the ground, discarding his parachute. No voice contact 
was made with the men, and the probability of immediate capture 
was considered very high. Numerous aircraft made several passes 
over the area for the next several
hours and were unsuccessful in observing either of the downed 
crewmen. Several emergency beepers were heard intermittently the 
remainder of the afternoon and throughout the night, however, no 
voice contact was established. Active, 
organized search and rescue efforts were subsequently terminated. 
Only Kientzler was released at Operation Homecoming in 1973. He 
reported that during parachute descent they 
received heavy ground fire, at which time he was hit in the leg. 
He last saw CDR Hall as they touched the ground. When he asked 
his guards about his pilot, he was told that he was killed by 
another. No other returned POW reported having knowledge of 
Harley Hall, yet the Pentagon maintained him in POW status for 
over 6 years, and documents were obtained that indicated that he 
was indeed captured. The Hanoi government claims to have no 
knowledge of CDR Harley 
Hall. This former member of the famed Blue Angels flight team 
remains missing. Harley Hall was shot down on the last day of 
the war and was the last Navy air casualty of the Vietnam War. 
He was the last American to be classified Prisoner of War in the 
Vietnam War. Harley H. Hall was promoted to the rank of Captain 
during the period he was maintained as a prisoner.
                                     [hhall.95 08/22/95]
    DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY      WASHINGTON,  D.C. 20340                                           
DIA EVALUATION OF INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE SOCIALIST REPUBLIC 
OF VIETNAM IN THE CASE OF COMMANDER HARLEY HALL, USN On 13 July 
1988, during a remains repatriation ceremony in Hanoi, 
representatives of the Vietnamese Office For  Seeking Missing 
Persons (VNOSMP) furnished Joint Casualty 
Resolution Center (JCRC) officials with six written investigative 
reports. In the case of Commander Harley H. Hall, USN, the 
written report reiterates much of the information previously 
furnished by the U.S. in the JCRC negotiation narrative. It goes 
on to claim that a  "team" as well as two "VNOSMP" specialists," 
visited the location where the Navy officer was; lost, researched
historical documents in the villages and talked to "individuals 
directly related to this incident.
" According to the report, "Commander Phillip" (LCDR Phillip 
Kientzler, returnee) was captured; the other commander was found 
dead and buried in a trench. The investigative team claims to 
have visited the grave site and observed that it had been 
exhumed and the remains taken. The local populace allegedly told 
the team that "from about 1981-1982 up until the present time, 
many people from different areas came to rob the grave, a total 
of as many as eight occasions, the most recent being February 
1988 Because of this, nothing is left in the grave site 
to be recovered. The local authorities carried out an 
investigation concerning the grave robbery but without results.
"The report concludes with the comment that the investigative 
team is not able to recover the remains of this pilot.
While we have no information which would indicate that Commander 
Hall survived to become a captive of the Vietnamese, the claims 
made by the Socialist Republic of Vietnam  (SRV) authorities 
regarding this incident stretch credulity and totally contradict 
their known policies and practices in handling remains of 
Americans based upon all-source intelligence collection efforts 
over a period spanning more than two decades, we can state with 
certainty that there is a centrally administered program which 
Outlines strict procedures for handling the remains of Americans. 
Throughout the war the Communist forces enforced a policy to 
find and bury Americans killed in action, and captured enemy 
documents continually stressed that this effort was important to 
the "political struggle." The procedures required that a full 
written report on the incident be prepared, to include a sketch 
of the burial location. When possible, photos of the Americans 
were supposed to be taken, and all personal effects documents, 
maps, etc. were to be forwarded with the written report up the 
chain of command to Hanoi. 
Americans were buried in marked graves in well defined (if 
primitive by U.S. standards) cemeteries. Buried with them would 
be a paper which included the American's name, date, place and 
cause of death. This procedure was also followed in burying 
Vietnamese soldiers killed in battle. Vietnamese public health 
laws require that remains be buried for at least three years 
before they are exhumed (a common Vietnamese practice) and 
reinterred in a final location. In the case of many Americans, 
after being buried for three years or more, remains were probably
prepared and stored in a warehouse type situation.  In the 
specific instance of Commander Hall, if indeed he died at the 
time of his loss incident, one must presume that the outlined 
procedures were followed and he was not simply buried in  a  
convenient nearby trench. Further, the area area where he was 
lost  was under the control of combat troops at the time, which 
calls into question the Vietnamese claim that it was necessary 
to review village historical documents (which probably do not 
exist) and talk to villagers allegedly involved in the incident. 
Further, had villagers been interviewed and local documents 
researched, the VNOSMP representatives would have certainly 
discovered information on the two Americans who were lost in this 
same area only minutes after Commander Hall's aircraft was 
downed. The claim that the grave was repeatedly robbed by "many 
people from different areas," is highly implausible. In general,
Vietnamese citizens are highly superstitious about the dead and 
are not roaming the country robbing graves. Further, as all 
personal effects would have been previously forwarded to Hanoi, 
it should be well known to any would-be grave robbers that there 
is nothing of monetary value in the grave Over the past several 
years numerous SRV actions and statements appear to be aimed 
toward creating the illusion that they have difficulty accounting
for missing Americans because private citizens are recovering 
and trafficking in remains. This is simply not the case. 
In summary, the report furnished by the SRV is implausible and 
in direct conflict with their known policies and practices. 
Based on the circumstances of Commander Hall's loss we believe 
the communist government of Vietnam has more information and for 
reason; known only to them has decided to concoct this story 
instead. 
TO: Department of Defense From: Mary Louise Hall (Mrs. Harley 
Hall) DATE:   September 13,1993   
RE: ALLEGED "ACCOUNTING" for "REMAINS" OF POW HARLEY H. HALL, USN
(3 FRONT TEETH)
  QUALIFIED ACKNOWLEDGMENT UNDER PROTEST FOR OBJECTIVITY AND 
TRUTH            
Dear Sirs:
In response to the recent recovery of three of Capt. Harley 
Hall's front teeth from the site of his downing and capture on 
1 1/27/73 3 in Quang Tri Province, I would like the following to
go on record: While I acknowledge these to be three of my 
husband's correctly identified teeth (confirmed by a dental 
expert), I object most strenuously to the inference that they 
constitute evidence of death, and I by no means acknowledge or 
accept them as an accounting of the person of Harley H. Hall. 
As suc