DON'T ARGUE THE CAPTAIN
IS YOGURT WITH WRENCHES'
van vliet, painter
collection of fragments
1985/89 - THIS is PART 2 1990/95
from LOS ANGELES
TIMES 290790 usa
by kristine mckenna
as well as the
RUN PAINT RUN RUN from MOJO #2 011293 england
notes: this article on don van vliet as a painter and what seems to be an interview is cut and paste work from her reports during the 80's. the previously unused bits - although the 1989 interview 'gravity holding me down' hasn't been found yet - are:
on being a painter:i don't care where i fit into history or whether i'm part of this or that school. i paint for the simple reason that i have to. i feel a sense of relief after i do it.
the most widely held misconception about me is that i'm a mystic. i'm not. i believe in black and white, i believe organically.
part of why i stopped doing music was because it was too hard to control the other people i needed to play the stuff and i'd had enough animal training. when it comes to art i have a real streak of fascism. i want it to be exactly the way i conceive it, and if one line is changed it's like: 'hey, the hell with it, i don't need it'.
(completed cite) on his earlier life as a composer:
most people are so damned stupid they can't even see what artists are doing, and if they're appreciated at all during their lifetime, it's usually for the wrong reasons.
a lot of people don't know this, but i was painting consistently throughout the '60s and '70s, but i never showed my work then (with the exception of the 1972 liverpool, uk exhibition - t.t.) because i didn't feel like it. i'm happy to show it now though, because the art world is providing a better life for me than music did. it helps, not having to deal with fans, and i'm much better off now.
from THE ASSOCIATED
PRESS 090991 usa
by john rogers
is 08.91 telephone interview
as well as the
MUSIC'S MAD GENIUS ENJOYS PAINTING from STEVENS POINT JOURNAL 210991 usa
FOR MUSIC'S MAD GENIUS THERE'S SOLACE IN PAINTING from THE ENTERPRISE 220991 usa
MUSIC'S MAD GENIUS FINDS NEW CANVAS from CHICAGO SUN / TIMES 141191 usa
oh, i've had so much fun since i started just painting because now i don't have to worry about somebody else. i did that music thing for twenty years, and i tell you, i was a damn fool.
(on a rare trip to an exhibit of his paintings in southern california last year he was besieged by captain beefheart fans. he graciously signed autographs for hours, but confided afterward that he hated the experience.)
in my music days i used to even paint on stage. sometimes during a song, i'd be doing a painting or a drawing. i didn't care if the audience liked it or not. i just wanted to paint.
i usually see the sun and the moon roll around the sky three or four times before going to sleep. i finally hit that point (where sleep is a necessity). but i fight it.
on the process of making a painting:
magic johnson - now there's an artist.
on a certain basketball star:
they never quite got it right, did they?
comparing the blues efforts of the 'rolling stones' with one of their inspirations, howlin' wolf:
it's very difficult to discuss in words what you do with a brush. usually you sound like a naive artist, which is not what i am. everything i do is on purpose.
it came from the beef in my heart about people stealing the land and covering it over; from the beef in my heart about the way people treat animals. it's terrible what we do to animals.
on why he called himself 'captain beefheart':
i've only seen about three other people since i've lived here. and i'm not kidding. but then i don't get out much.
on his new home on the coast:
there's a lot of guys who copied me, and i think they're crazy. i think it's a dangerous thing not to be who you are, to try to be somebody else. it doesn't flatter me.
on his influence on other musicians:
from THE ASSOCIATED
PRESS 220595 usa
by john rogers
is early 05.95 telephone interview
as well as other (shorter)
HE'D RATHER PAINT A LINE THAN SING IT from PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS 250595 usa
CAPTAIN BEEFHEART RIDES AGAIN IN ART from THE SPECTRUM 280595 usa
CAPT. BEEFHEART IS A MEATY PAINTER he says his music waylaid him for 20 years from THE PALLADIUM-TIMES 290595 usa
GIVES INTO THE BRUSH former '60s' songster now renowned for art from ALEXANDRIA DAILY TOWN TALK 020695 usa
BEYOND BEEFHEART: VAN VLIET'S ART WINNING ACCLAIM from THE STAR-DEMOCRAT 020695 usa
CAPTAIN BEEFHEART GAINING ACCLAIM from STANDARD-SPEAKER 030695 usa
ROCK'S CAPTAIN BEEFHEART GAINS INTERNATIONAL ACCLAIM - FOR PAINTING from STEVENS POINT JOURNAL 030695 usa
BEEFHEART GAINS ACCLAIM FOR PAINTING from THE DAILY TIMES 040695 usa
THE ARTFUL REBIRTH OF CAPT. BEEFHEART from JOURNAL AND COURIER 04695 usa
CAPTAIN BEEFHEART RETURNS WITH NEW TOOL: PAINTING from PRESS-REPUBLICAN 100695 usa
CAPTAIN BEEFHEART LEFT MUSIC FOR ANOTHER ARTISTIC UNIVERSE from LINCOLN JOURNAL-STAR 110695 usa
CAPTAIN BEEFHEART CONTENT TO BE PAINTER from THE REPUBLIC 090795 usa
i had been painting since i was little bitty baby boy anyhow, but i got waylaid along the way. that music thing waylaid me for twenty years.
the people didn't get it. well..., they seldom do. they don't have anything to do with my brush anyway.
on 'another rock musician dabbling in art?':
they're not really an influence on me, though. no one is. i just paint like i paint and that's enough influence.
on admiring painters, like van gogh and willem de kooning:
they were sweet people, but they didn't have a clue. they didn't even know who picasso was.
on the fine arts knowledge of his parents:
and then he had to go and die on me. he died too young - way, way too young.
on the death - in december 1993 - of frank zappa:
i don't think about music anymore. i don't have time to think about it. that would just be keeping me away from the brush. and all i really want to do now, is get as much out as i can through the brush.
i don't think being seen in public like that adds anything. i think it's just being commercial. it's just that i don't like getting out when i could be painting. (thinks.) and when i'm painting, i don't want anybody else around. that's all. (laughs.)
on not been to one of his exhibitions since 1990:
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captain beefheart electricity
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