This is a conversation sent to Ed Hale and The Veeg, nothing was done except to the person behind the R3Dbean tag which is The Red Dragon
R3DBEAN: Hey dducky007: what dducky007: up R3DBEAN: nothing much dducky007: this the original? R3DBEAN: no dducky007: who is this? R3DBEAN: I see on the forums that you like dectective work dducky007: hahaha, you have a job for me i take it dducky007: it all depends on the work really R3DBEAN: no; more like some info dducky007: if it's pointless then i won't waist my time dducky007: what are you interested in R3DBEAN: its what your interessed in R3DBEAN: i know people have claimed that redbean is embo for somet time now R3DBEAN: but he showed up in a game one time so everyone stopped pursuing it R3DBEAN: but i can tell you how he changes R3DBEAN: account recovery R3DBEAN: embo was caught, veeg cant have the number 1 hater being revealed as his partner because everyone would go crazy R3DBEAN: so veeg did account recovery so when someone needs to talk then veeg logs into embos name R3DBEAN: but embo is veeg, why would veeg have 2 names to make admin decisions? R3DBEAN: you still listening dducky007: yea R3DBEAN: veeg wants bean to disappear though, thats why you dont see him posting anymore R3DBEAN: hes trying to make the name go away R3DBEAN: any questions dducky007: what is your sources? R3DBEAN: i cant give my real name or sources R3DBEAN: but they come from the inside R3DBEAN: and they are correct dducky007: how deep inside? dducky007: how do you know they are correct R3DBEAN: my info comes from the people who are directly involved dducky007: admins or mods? R3DBEAN: you can do what you like with this covo, but i do ask that this remains private between myself and you R3DBEAN: you can say just a source R3DBEAN: this comes from redbean himself, and others who are directly involved dducky007: well i happen to know a thing or two myself from inside sources dducky007: i also talk to redbean quite freakently R3DBEAN: all the admins know like jonis, boogie dducky007: frequently dducky007: what makes you think they know? R3DBEAN: i JUST KNOW R3DBEAN: trust me R3DBEAN: ask yourself this R3DBEAN: if embo wasnt redbean R3DBEAN: why would he come out in the playoffs post and degrade jonis infront of everyone R3DBEAN: because the ghosts were involved then he wasnt allowed to make any decision on the matter R3DBEAN: is was joniss decision R3DBEAN: even though there is alot of shady things going on, bean never made any decisions concerning the ghosts dducky007: i think that had to with the descision, and competitivness drove the madness out of everyone dducky007: bean will lie to you, you know this right R3DBEAN: i know R3DBEAN: but i know the truth R3DBEAN: ive been involved since the beginning R3DBEAN: tc reporter is the red dragon dducky007: i know R3DBEAN: so what info do you have? dducky007: well i will discuss my info, specially when you won't even reveal your true identity R3DBEAN: i cant R3DBEAN: heres some more little known info dducky007: captain of french fried tators right? R3DBEAN: when live support was up and running it was the entire EA team running it R3DBEAN: led by john gotti, who was an admin at one time who changed many peoples passwords who pissed him off R3DBEAN: they let him back on knowing full well what he had done R3DBEAN: finally now hes gone, but this site has poor management and many dark secrets R3DBEAN: bobby steels has made several threats as a mod R3DBEAN: claiming he has powers to teams that his team faces R3DBEAN: telling them how they will recieve a loss if they mess with him R3DBEAN: boogie has had several complaints about this dducky007: he's only a mod though R3DBEAN: exactly R3DBEAN: not the point though dducky007: well yea but it proves he's talking out of his ass and shouldn't be amod R3DBEAN: boogie was suppose to do something about this, but couldnt because his statment was"it makes it hard since im trying out for his crimson skies team tomorrow" R3DBEAN: early on in the playoffs skeety peety made a decision that was the wrong one everyone found out dducky007: how recent? R3DBEAN: veeg said the decision was up to him to decide how to deal with it R3DBEAN: skeety said, right or wrong a admin should never go back on his decision R3DBEAN: and he kept the decision the same dducky007: what descision was that R3DBEAN: it pissed bean off and bean spoke up to finally get the ruling overturned, but it never would have happened until bean came out R3DBEAN: the vt vs widowmakers dducky007: that was never overturned, wm and vt settled it out of ruling. TC just acknowledge and went along with it so it took the heat off them dducky007: then the roster exemtions went after that R3DBEAN: it was after the turn, tc didnt have to accept it, but they knew they messed up and allowed it dducky007: i do know skeety and damien are good friends from what i heard R3DBEAN: yes they are R3DBEAN: skeetys a good guy R3DBEAN: but its just another point in how the admin team as a whole has no balls dducky007: i'm sure they all are, but doesn't mean they are the best at what they do dducky007: hah dducky007: rules and guidlines need to be placed and made sure are followed so mess ups aren't repeated R3DBEAN: nckilla was being considered as a dispute leader until he came out and stated it dducky007: so that is for sure? dducky007: i was told emb denied it to red dragon R3DBEAN: bloods dad was interested in a 500k investment dducky007: right but fell through R3DBEAN: right dducky007: how sure are you about nyckilla ordeal? R3DBEAN: 80% dducky007: why just 80? R3DBEAN: its the only thing im not 100% on dducky007: well i thought that killa was telling the truth dducky007: then dragon said emb said it's not true dducky007: and dragon said the blood 500k thing was legit R3DBEAN: thats what embo probably told dragon dducky007: so he new what was up R3DBEAN: back during the playoffs, dragon made a statement that was basically, if the right decision wasnt made in the ea vs ghosts match then all of tcs secrets would be revealed R3DBEAN: so now upper management is working on throwing dragon out of the loop dducky007: never read that R3DBEAN: you wont read that dducky007: are you involved in upper management? R3DBEAN: veeg has said many times during the problems, that he doesnt care who wins or losses just as long as nothing gets out of hand R3DBEAN: its a business and i understand that, but when right decisions arent made then a big flaw is exposed dducky007: i agree R3DBEAN: you must not show this convo to ANYONE or else youll never hear any more dducky007: what baffles me out of all this bad rumors or truth(whichever) is, i have met Ed Hale and i don't honeslty see him as letting BS like this happen dducky007: i dont' see him as running a crooked company R3DBEAN: ed seems like the good guy R3DBEAN: i dont believe hes honestly in knowing of what all goes on R3DBEAN: hes from purely a business stand point dducky007: I know for a fact he makes final calls on everything business related R3DBEAN: he doesnt get involved with the matches or anything like that dducky007: veeg won't discuss much without him R3DBEAN: they are partners R3DBEAN: i dont see why ed hasnt been spoken of until recently though R3DBEAN: veeg made us all believe that he was the only one running the show R3DBEAN: veeg is crooked R3DBEAN: i tell you that right now dducky007: well Ed isn't a gamer dducky007: has nothing to do with it i don't think dducky007: which would explain why he wasn't known R3DBEAN: im not for certain on this info dducky007: i know he was considered a silent partner R3DBEAN: but i do believe that bean is now being paid for his work dducky007: what work? R3DBEAN: bean made a comment to one of his guys that veeg asked him not to play and to kill redbean R3DBEAN: and he was going to abide by that dducky007: what exactly do you think bean is doing for the site? R3DBEAN: because this info could NOT get out R3DBEAN: bean is complying and wont even start up a new gamertag because he said it will break their "trust" but beans brokent the trust of many already- dont release any of this info dducky007: ok but what role is bean being payed for? R3DBEAN: theres no way bean would give up gaming unless he was being paid for his work dducky007: is he developing? R3DBEAN: hes a key admin, making final decisions, disputes, setting up new features R3DBEAN: this site wouldnt be what it is without bean R3DBEAN: thats how big he is R3DBEAN: and if TC would have just said that from the beginning then it wouldnt be bad R3DBEAN: because bean does alot of good R3DBEAN: if you ever talk to boogie, boogies a complete moron and doesnt need control over anything R3DBEAN: jonis is as crooked as they come and in no way should be allowed to make decisions R3DBEAN: no 16 yr olds should be making the decisions that jonis makes because hes one demensional R3DBEAN: bean lies because he has too R3DBEAN: hes so deep in all this he cant stop lying now R3DBEAN: its lie after lie dducky007: ok, so why have you came to me with all this. What role do you see me playing? R3DBEAN: you do what you want R3DBEAN: im not sure if i should have said anything yet R3DBEAN: ill probably regret this when we are dont dducky007: yet? dducky007: so something has happened to make you bitter R3DBEAN: no, its been a long course of things R3DBEAN: i probably should have waited to see if things smooth over and get better, but that doesnt seem to be happening R3DBEAN: if all the secrets are revealed then i believe tc could start anew and do the right things dducky007: well if dealings such as these are in fact correct it will only get worse dducky007: never get better R3DBEAN: right, unless the truth is known and they can wipe the slate clean dducky007: yep dducky007: wich wouldn't hurt them one bit R3DBEAN: if you post anything then youll be banned dducky007: it would only drive away the little brats that have been here for a while R3DBEAN: the hammer by the way isnt a person dducky007: which wouldn't pay for a pro league anywyas dducky007: it's multiple ppl R3DBEAN: right dducky007: who ever see's something wrong dducky007: group account R3DBEAN: and if you notice when they first posted R3DBEAN: they posted to talk like bean R3DBEAN: the philopophy behind that was, that if people accused them of being bean then they could come out and say, no your wrong and they would actually be telling the truth lol R3DBEAN: its pathetic R3DBEAN: that statement came from jonis R3DBEAN: i can tell you that the ghosts have caught alot, and i mean ALOT of shit over this R3DBEAN: they really have been fucked in every decision concerning them because tc has done everything to make it look like they arent associated with them dducky007: how does one of the main descision holders catch shit? R3DBEAN: because they try to play reverse psychology R3DBEAN: the most recent was the playoff decision dducky007: Actually Tazman told jonis the best thing to do was make them replay it, only till the rematch was it when they decided to forfeit both which was stated in the rematch rules R3DBEAN: tazman is no decision maker nor a consultant on the matter R3DBEAN: actually the night that both teams showed up for the rematch the ghosts had no intention of playing that game R3DBEAN: they were going to sit there and refuse to ready up, the same thing that ea did that night R3DBEAN: they were going to force tc to make a decision R3DBEAN: either way, there has been no other game where a dispute ended in the result of having to finish the match R3DBEAN: they broke their rules once again R3DBEAN: because it was 2 major team R3DBEAN: just because they are major teams, they shouldnt get privalidges R3DBEAN: everyone should be treated equal R3DBEAN: so do you believe what ive told you or not dducky007: i never said he was a discision maker, but jonis gave taz both sides of the dispute and ask for his opinion. Taz read both and gave his answer and a reasoning why. Which was that the ghosts had lies on there side and EA wasn't telling the hole truth. after the rematch Taz wasn't talked to at all being he was not involved R3DBEAN: either way, its besides the point dducky007: do i beleive you? well you are telling me things with no actuall proof so the first thought would be no. Does it interest me, yes it does cause there is a possability it could be true. But it will be very hard to prove such a matter dducky007: untill someone goes public that has credabilty dducky007: which seems like it will never happen dducky007: but dducky007: doesn't mean i won't get info in the future about it if it is true dducky007: do you know who the new admin might be yet? dducky007: you there?