eggie1978: I can't say I'm at a loss for words

April (

eggie1978) wrote,
@ 2008-12-07 00:32:00

Current location:	home
Current mood:	calm
Current music:	Kanye West - Flashing Lights
Entry tags:	fyi, lj beefs

I can't say I'm at a loss for words
It's amazing really. I mean...I can't believe it. Except for lytrigian who:

1) Still doesn't understand why I called her a hater. And doesn't consider herself one even though I explained the definition in which she fits the description.
2) Is persistent with telling me that I won't have my book in a bookstore.
3) Admitted she's not a published author, but doesn't understand why she has no right to judge me.
4) Still thinks I'm not a credible author because of my self-publishing decision. Again, she hasn't published a book herself. Glass house...throw stones?
5) Says I didn't work hard on my story and my journey to publication is nothing compared to a REAL published author who pitched their manuscript and got a contract for free. In other words, I have nothing to feel proud about. After all...I paid someone. I didn't EARN my book or my right to call myself an author.
6) Felt it necessary to point out that she didn't find many authors from Author House that have books being sold.
7) Thinks I should take her opinion into consideration and listen to her because she's trying to tell me the reality of my decision to self-publish. I still don't know why she cares what I did.
8) Told me that when people tell me the harsh reality of my decision, I should realize they're only trying to help me. Yeah, sure. Again...why does she care?

The above was my summary from our last conversation. I'm saying it again...I still don't understand why she cares so much. I mean, did I use HER money? I really don't understand her mentality. It's almost like she wants me to reevaluate my decision to self-publish, pitch my manuscript to publishers so I'll do it the 'respectable and right way'. Her way. Ummm...it's already too late for that. I seemed to have offended her in some way and she thinks I've been bragging when I posted my entry to promote my site. If anyone else thinks I'm bragging, please tell me. I sincerely thought what I was doing was self-promoting. I never said, "I have a book coming out and you don't. Take that bitches!" I only made a point about having a book when the haters WITHOUT THEIR OWN BOOKS came out of the woodwork to put me down about self-publishing.

Anyway, back to the actual topic of this entry. I've strayed way off. I was able to have civilized, non-judgmental conversations with two of the other people who bashed me on fictionwriters. And I have to say, alankria was the easiest to converse with. I can honestly say that she's not that bad. Even winterfox eased up on her bashing...which was a total shock. Can you believe it?!? I can't. She was still snarky towards me and I read between the lines in one of her comments that I unscreened. I could tell she was slighting me, but I let it slide because I was trying to be the bigger person and let her voice her opinion. I even said encouraging things to her because she finally revealed that she finished writing a novel. She was pretty decent...even for her. And she acted like a grown woman for the most part instead of a child.

The fact still remains that none of them have books out there for people to buy or read. So they're really in no position to judge me or any other self-published author with a book that either exists or is coming out soon. And I hope they learn to just respect people's decisions even if it's not something they would necessarily do themselves. We're all writers, and I'm sure most of us would like to have a book with our names on it.

So...what have I learned from all this?

1) People can agree to disagree and move on.
2) Even the biggest hater can have a change of heart and speak civilized.
3) Keep doing what makes you happy even if other people don't like it. Especially people on the internet who don't know you and you'll probably never meet.

♥

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	aryssreaper 2008-12-07 01:57 pm UTC (link)
	I love you. Keep your head high and do what you want. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	eggie1978 2008-12-07 04:41 pm UTC (link)
	I love you too Aryss. :) hugs you so tight you can't breathe LOL! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	penchaft 2008-12-07 04:02 pm UTC (link)
	Getting kinda obsessed, aren't you? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	eggie1978 2008-12-07 04:43 pm UTC (link)
	I'm obsessed? You're the one who's obsessed with me. What the hell are you doing on my journal? Hahaha! You checking me out to see if I talk about you? You're a bold one too. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	penchaft 2008-12-07 04:49 pm UTC (link)
	I'm amused, not obsessed. There was nothing new on fandom_lounge, so I took a casual stroll to where the lulz are, to see how tightly you're clinging to the hope that you can convince yourself nothing's wrong. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

eggie1978
2008-12-07 05:01 pm UTC (link)

No, darling, you're obsessed. You strolled over to MY journal to continue to talk shit to me. You have nothing better to do? No where better to go? LiveJournal is a BIG website, dear. There's plenty of communities to participate in. Plenty of people to befriend.

I had an amazing experience on LJ with you and your friends on

fictionwriters. I mean...a thread with like 155 comments back-and-forth. That's a feat; especially in that community. And you know...since this is MY journal...I had to share my experience with others. I'm sure some of your friends did the same; maybe even you. But you see, I have no desire to venture over to their journals. I don't give a fuck what they say about me. What's amusing to ME is that you're here with your same immature bullshit but I could easily just delete your fucking comment. But I won't because I'd like to see how long you actually stick around.

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	penchaft 2008-12-07 05:12 pm UTC (link)
	Compare! penchaft : received a google alert, and clicked. eggie1978 : initiated said alert with one of three posts. One of these is more indicative of a continual and troubling preoccupation than the other is. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

eggie1978
2008-12-07 05:19 pm UTC (link)

You have GOOGLE ALERTS on yourself?!? Are you paranoid or something?!? OMG! Hahahahaha!

Yes, I had to mention your name in my entries. You were part of my amazing experience. How could I leave you out? You talked A LOT of shit, m'dear. And I didn't f-lock my entries like I could've because I had nothing to hide from you or your friends. I don't care if you know that I'm blogging about you.

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	penchaft 2008-12-07 05:31 pm UTC (link)
	Do you purposely write replies that don't quite match what you're replying to? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	eggie1978 2008-12-07 05:36 pm UTC (link)
	What part of my reply don't you understand? I don't have time for illiterate haters on my journal. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	penchaft 2008-12-07 05:38 pm UTC (link)
	I didn't say it was incomprehensible, I implied it wasn't relevant. Many of your replies are not relevant (including this one); I was wondering if you knew you did that so often. (Reply to this)(Parent)

winterfox
2008-12-07 05:20 pm UTC (link)

The fact still remains that none of them have books out there for people to buy or read. So they're really in no position to judge me or any other self-published author with a book that either exists or is coming out soon.

You still don't understand, do you?

Here's an analogy, if you can comprehend that. When one criticizes Bush's policies, does one need to be:

a) running for presidency
b) a national leader?

Well?

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eggie1978
2008-12-07 05:33 pm UTC (link)

You're here too?!? Wow. This is truly amazing. You finally made your presence known on MY journal. Heehee. :)

Um...Bush...and his policies. That's his JOB. He has to make policies for the people he governs. And the people...they're not all going to agree with them. And they can voice their opinion. But you see, he's the president. Not the them. They can't take his job and make the policies themselves unless he's impeached, killed, or his term is up. Then maybe ONE person will get the position. So, they have to critique him and his decisions. Or try to work with Congress to get his policies revised or whatever.

You're comparing book publishing to governing?

You see, YOU can go and publish your own book by pitching your manuscript. You can have a book out there yourself. Do it the way you want. The way you think is the right way. The way you and your friends were telling me relentlessly that I should've done. And when you do, you can judge me for what I've done.

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winterfox
2008-12-07 05:39 pm UTC (link)

Okay, you still don't get it. A-n-a-l-o-g-y. So, with this--

They can't take his job and make the policies themselves unless he's impeached, killed, or his term is up. Then maybe ONE person will get the position.

Are you insisting that if you're not willing to run for presidency after Bush term was done, you can never at any point criticize his idiocy in any way?

Let's try a different one. When one spots a plate of meat that's been badly overcooked to the point that it's inedible--burnt, a piece of charcoal, etc--served, either on your table or someone else's, does one need to be a gourmet chef to realize that the meat is indeed burnt and no one in their right mind will want to eat it?

Or perhaps to bring it closer to home, when you see someone fork over her bank details to some anonymous Internet agency--while believing that they'll use these details to transfer an amazingly huge sum of money to her account--do you also need to have been scammed to realize that this is pure stupidity?

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eggie1978
2008-12-07 05:53 pm UTC (link)

First let me say, why are you still trying to tell me what I've done is wrong and idiotic? Why the fuck do you care what I've done? And why are you on MY journal? You just couldn't resist, could you? I swear...you're obsessed with me. When did I first post my entry on

fictionwriters? I think it was four days ago. And yet...here you are. FOUR DAYS later, now posting on MY journal too. I wouldn't be surprised if you were the one who put the Freewebs page up.

I know what an analogy is. And you also brought up the analogy to COMPARE it to the statement I made about not having a book yourself and judging me for self-publishing.

Let's see if YOU can comprehend this. Read it slowly so you'll understand.

Just because YOU wouldn't self-publish your own manuscript, doesn't mean you have to knock someone who did. ESPECIALLY when it's a popular way of publishing and a lot of OTHER people do it too. Different authors take different routes to publish books. Get it? I know it's a big eye-opener, but it's true.

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	winterfox 2008-12-07 05:56 pm UTC (link)
	ESPECIALLY when it's a popular way of publishing and a lot of OTHER people do it too. Different authors take different routes to publish books. Oh. "Other people do it too" is a valid reason for doing something, I see. I salute your life philosophy, it is fantastic and shall help you thrive and prosper. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	eggie1978 2008-12-07 06:00 pm UTC (link)
	Yes, other people do it for their publishing needs and are successful. So it was a cause for me to research. I'm not ashamed to admit that. That's what we're talking about here. PUBLISHING. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

winterfox
2008-12-07 06:02 pm UTC (link)

Hmm.

lytrigian has shown you facts about people who published via AuthorHouse. To wit: that very few of them are successful, and even then they tend to be non-fiction.

So what is this "success" of which you speak? I am amenable to seeing the facts and figures you have no doubt extensively, painstakingly researched. And please, facts and figures from sites that aren't AuthorHouse or AuthorHouse-sponsored.

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	eggie1978 2008-12-07 06:05 pm UTC (link)
	Who are you that I have to prove anything to? Give you facts? Who are you, Winterfox? I don't have to give you shit. I don't even have to let you talk shit on my journal. I should delete everything you've said, but I can't wait for my f-list to see you here. They're going to laugh their asses off. And we all need to share a laugh. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

winterfox
2008-12-07 06:09 pm UTC (link)

You're working yourself into that froth-at-the-mouth fury again. Surely that's not healthy.

As I said,

lytrigian supplied you with facts. I'm curious as to why you ignored those facts completely. Is there something selective about the way you view the world? Kind of like that "Critics are of no use to me" thing (which incidentally would explain the quality of your writing and why you had to resort to self-publication)?

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winterfox
2008-12-07 05:48 pm UTC (link)

In addition, you seem to be measuring the worth of someone's opinions according to their accomplishments--or at least, what you think constitutes accomplishment. So, in this case, since Bush was at least motivated enough and resourceful enough to become president (twice), I'd say he has accomplished far, far more than you. Does this mean your opinion (or that of anyone who's never "accomplished" as much as Bush has) is worth shit concerning his policies?

In fact, you should never criticize the work/opinions/ridiculousness of anyone of some prominence ever, because why, you're a worthless nobody whose one accomplishment in life is self-publishing a novel.

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eggie1978
2008-12-07 05:58 pm UTC (link)

And you seem to measure someone's accomplishments based on how they published. Your hypocrisy and judgment has no end Winterfox. You have nothing better to do on a Sunday then to keep running off at the mouth on my journal? I'm sure you've done enough of it on your own journal. I don't care to visit it though. I'm not obsessed with you and I don't care what you say about me on your own journal. That's your domain and you can say whatever you please.

I've already told you your opinion of what I did is value-less. You don't support me so why should I care what you think? Critics are of no use to me.

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	winterfox 2008-12-07 05:59 pm UTC (link)
	Critics are of no use to me. Mommy, the girls at school are mean and jealous. Mommy, please tell me how good I do and how pretty I am. Mommy! Mommy? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	eggie1978 2008-12-07 06:03 pm UTC (link)
	Grow up. You'll do better in life if you act your age. sigh I was wrong about you. I think I shall edit my entry now. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	winterfox 2008-12-07 06:06 pm UTC (link)
	I daresay that being able to take criticism and consider it, instead of ignoring all of it while screaming LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU at the top of your lungs, would be maturity. Something which you don't seem terribly interested in practicing. Weren't you accusing people of hypocrisy at some point? You'd do better in life if you didn't go through it listening only to yes-men. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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