FIREBORN

AT HOME IN FLAME

about this Gypsy research page...

     If ever there were a people born in flame, it is the Roma.  Throughout time they have maintained a rich culture in the midst of adversity and distrust.  As nomads they remain outsiders where ever they are,  in the past they embraced and preserved much folklore and music from the places they passed through.  As other cultures evolved, they remained the keepers of the past, so as an oral society, they retain something that most  civilizations have forgotten. 

     Since 1982, I have been studying Rom history (pre 17 c.).  They have a fascinating culture shrouded in misconsceptions and misdirection.  With the advent of the internet, it is now possible to look across oceans and experience other cultures as never before.   I would like to provide a forum for this.    I will try to post my favorites list (eventually), excerpts from things I have read, pictures, and anything else that I've found thoughout my research.  I welcome any documented submittals from others as well.  

     Anyone who reads this assortment of information should be warned that some of this material may not be considered politically correct by today's standards.  Throughout the ages, the Roma have remained a culture apart from others.  As such, they were/are persecuted all over the world.  Just as history is written by the conqueror, so are many of the references that we piece together.  Since they have always been a mostly oral culture, there are no written accounts by them--only about them-by people who did not understand them.  After reading through only a few books, this becomes very apparent.  They are often romantasized or demonized, and they cleverly used these notions for their own survival throughout the ages.  So if you are new to this, you must take into account who wrote these things, and why, if you want to be fair.  

     The Rom Timeline at the end of this page is a project that won me an award for research- a Thistle- in the Society of Creatuve Anachronism, a long, long time ago.  It's meant to be an ongoing project, but I've fallen behind lately.  What I have though, is an ever-expanding list all the Gypsy sightings throughout history reported (whether disputed or not), along with the name of the book/article where I found it.  So far, there are no websites listed because I did this project  before I had a computer. 

     In the SCA, I have portrayed a Rom persona for over twenty years.  I am known as Lady Kyleena of the Rom and I set up shop as a traveling merchant at events.  It has been very interesting, for even in the portrayal of a persona in the midst of a chivalry oriented society, the stigma of oppression towards these people can still surface.  Ignorance is not bliss, and history is repeating itself every day.  I believe that in this ever-shrinking world, we should learn more about each other, and, though this isn't much, it's a start. 



                                              ARTICLE  INDEX 
                                  

                                              *1.  Persona 101 

                                     *2.  Sites & Favorites

                                       3   Books Online

       4.   Gypsy Social Organization

                               5.   Gipsy Pride

                               6.   Costuming Through Artistic Rendering

                               7.   The Ancient Method of Cooking

                               8.   More Pictures

                               9.   Kipling Poem Excerpt

                              10.  More Pictures

                              11.  Gipsy Stories and Fables

                              12.  And yet more pix

                                     13.  Rom Timeline

                              14. Timeline Sources 

                                            * 15. The World's Oldest Dance: 
                                            The Origins of Oriental Dance
                                            (Belly Dance--includes previous article 'Dances in Spain')


                        I try to enter new info in the first week of each month, so please come back often.   
                                                       --Mary Andrews/ Kyleena

 



Persona 101

  by L. Kyleena of the Ansteorran Rom

 

 

So, you’ve joined the Society for Creative Anachronisms and you’re trying to figure out why everybody

Gets all dressed up with nowhere to go.  Well, you’re in the right place. 

 

                                                    The following is a direct quote from the SCA website:

 

Atmosphere

 

Each member creates a “persona,” a personal character from a specific timeand place, which the member becomes for events. The goal is to create someone who “might have been” rather than to pretend to be an actual historical figure. The persona is a jumping-off point for research into that time period and place—what the person would have worn, eaten, etc.

 

Our areas of interest are as varied as was medieval culture: heraldry, knighthood, manuscript illumination and calligraphy, archery, armor making, costuming, jewelry making, needlework and sewing, theater, poetry, dancing, singing, cooking, brewing, equestrian arts, and more…

 

The SCA also attempts to create an atmosphere embodying those lost ideals that are found in medieval romance: chivalry, honor, and courtesy. Our goal is to re-create the Middle Ages as they should have been, without the strife and pestilence, but with an attempt to preserve the ideals of beauty, grace, chivalry, and fellowship.

 

 

Activities

The events we put on are participatory, rather than shows put on for spectators. Instead of putting on a performance for the public, we strive to learn and live in what we call the “current” Middle Ages.  --excerpt from SCA  PDF  DOCUMENT what is the SCA?      http://www.sca.org/docs/for-siteowners.pdf

 

 

PERSONA BENEFITS:  persona play creates atmosphere, brings history to life,  draws attention to our organization, and  allows everyone a chance to start unfettered by mundane limitations. 

 

PERSONAL PITFALLS:  if not done right, can encourage prejudice and restrict options.   Therefore it is important to understand the purpose of persona play within the SCA.  

                

 

 

To help generate your persona, I recommend  the following:

 

Costumes many people choose persona by what they would be comfortable wearing, or look best in and then research backwards.

 

Timelines quickly helps to pin down the parameters of your world.  It also provides additional names and events  for additional research.

 

Period  Maps to learn period names of the country you lived in, and what the geography was like…where cities were located….

 

Folk Tales tell you current morals, and illustrate aspects of normal life

 

Past times/Games  tell you about what people did in their leisure hours and allows you an opportunity to meet others and small talk of the “good ‘ol days”                   

 

Names can be found everywhere during research

 

 

Creating a persona is much like developing a character for a book.  It is good figure out as much about your alter ego as you can, but start by deciding what you, personally, want to do.  Here we all start with a clean slate.  Your mundane career, education, wealth no longer define you—a mundane sanitation worker can become king. 

 

Feel free to try new things here.  We are a teaching & learning society and we love to share all the cool things we’ve found. So, do not be afraid to approach others with your questions, especially those among us who have gained rank.  They started out just like you did….

 

WHO are you ?

WHAT do you want to do?

WHERE do you live?

WHEN do you live?

WHY are you here?

 

Though it is always fun to develop an elaborate back story, the best way to deliver it is in small portions.  Just like in writing, the rule is ‘show, don’t tell.’  Work in bits and pieces; axioms, remembrances, references.  Bring it to life as if it were real.  OR simply exude the character  and attitude of the people/nation/profession that you have chosen.  

In the end, life is the adventure you make it.

 

 

 

Online Resources

 

 

INTERNET MEDIEVAL SOURCE BOOK: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/sbookmap.html

 

NAMES:  http://www.s-gabriel.org/

 

SHORT LIST OF COMPLEAT ANACHRONIST ISSUES REPRINTED ONLINE: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/ca.index.html

 

THE COSTUMER’S MANIFESTO: http://www.costumes.org/ethnic/1PAGES/ETHNOLNK.HTM

 

                                   THE HISTORY OF COSTUME by Braun & Schneider:                                    http://www.siue.edu/COSTUMES/TEXT_INDEX.HTML

 

MONUMENTAL BRASS SOCIETY, PICTURE LIBRARY:

 http://www.mbs-brasses.co.uk/pic_lib/picture_library.htm

 

HISTORY OF GAMES TIMELINE: http://www.celticgames.com/gamestimeline.html

 

ANCIENT ATLAS-MAPS AND GEOGRAPHY: http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/maps/ss/mapsindex.htm

 

HYPERHISTORY ONLINE: http://www.hyperhistory.com/online_n2/History_n2/a.html

 

MYTHOLOGY: http://www.greatdreams.com/myth.htm

 

ARTS AND SCIENCES OF THE MIDDLE AGES AND RENAISSANCE: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html

 

STEFAN'S FLORILEGIUM  ARCHIVES:

http://www.florilegium.org/

 

 

 




Links & Favorites

Patrin:Roman culture & history                http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5121/

 

 

Patrin Timeline                                        http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5121/timeline.htm

 

 

Romani (Gypsy) Names                          http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/romany/

 

Early 14c Byzantine names of Macedonia      http://www.maridonna.com/onomastics/macedonia.htm 

 

SCA Gypsy research site                        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA_Gypsy/ 
                                               

Rani Lily Douglas of the Adrian society                    http://www.duchyofalhambra.org/node/133

 

Latcho drom                                           http://www.latchodrom.org/paintings.htm

 

 


 

http://www.egroups.com/group/SCA_Gypsy 

 

Originally when I joined this Egroup, I started a quest through the archives to list informational entries. I barely scratch the surface here, but I compiled this list of subjects that might be informational.

(go to site, click on  ‘messages’ and enter into message nbr box. Seems that ‘home,‘messages, and links’ are available without joining the egroup.  I’m not sure, but I recommend it. It is a general mail-list for use of all Gypsy clans throughout the SCA and is geared for studies pre1700’s.)

 

Learn Romani lessons 3199-3202 (see also: 3220, 3275, 4236, 4379, 7214-7221),  80 language English rom   3139 definition: Rom

 

Persona: 3571 persona   3567 persona play   3178 persona   106 persona   3174 native american

 

Garb:  122 garb   107 movie persona garb   3323 costume   3326 pants   3382 Russian costume site 
3291 diklo  100 henna mehndi   102 henna mehndi   109 movie and mehndi   43 garb   46 garb   64 garb   83 garb sites

Bender tent:  3180 bender tent      42 bender tents

 

Wagons: 3229 wagon-movie   3230 wagon   3234 wagon-book-site   3242 wagon   3258 book-wagon    3246 wagons   3273 vardo   449 vardo pix   3247 colors

BOOKS:  194 tinkers book   195 tinkers book   3243 book list   3267 book  73 book      60 book religion
    77 books and wagons   3152 The Gypsy Cookbook

SITES: 3824-shop site   3592 site-paint wheel   108 site links   168 dance sites   171 A&S search site   204 gypsy sites    241 gypsy dancer site    3141 site-links    3143 site-sewing    3150 UK site    3176 central am. Site   3235 amazon-uk site    3240 sites    3363 gypsy website   3315 music & history sites   3424 history site   3592 site-painted wheel tribe    3824-shop site     458 name site   453 renfaire rom web site     478 url patrin site

VIDEO: 3461 video   3487 video-curse of gypsy   110 movie

PREJUDICE:  3411 ‘Nail throwing” devils advocate  3415 prejudice   3426 prejudice   3212 prejudice

NAMES:   460 names   464 names

 

CULTURE:  4201 death customs    4210 occupations    3471 music


 




Books On-Line

The Jew The Gypsy and El Islam


By the late Captain   
SIR RICHARD F. BURTON

Edited with a Preface and Brief Notes by W. H. WILKINS

 

Notes on this Edition

This book is an exact transcription of the collection “The Jew, the

Gypsy and El Islam” (Chicago & New York: Herbert S. Stone,

1898). This volume was also published by Scribner’s in 1898.

The Stone edition collates the same as the first English edition

(London: Hutchinson & Co., 1898). — Scanner / Editor “JR”

June 12, 2000

 

 

PREFACE

 

The Gypsy has a far less eventful history (than the segment about The Jew), though the materials for its making were collected during a period of over thirty years, and were gathered for the most part by personal research, in Asia mainly, and also in Africa, South America, and Europe. Burton’s interest in the Gypsies was lifelong; and when he was a lieutenant in the Bombay Army and quartered in Sindh, he began his investigations concerning the affinity between the Jats and the Gypsies. During his many travels in different parts of the world, whenever he had the opportunity he collected fresh materials with a view to putting them together some day. In 1875 his controversy with Bataillard provoked him into compiling his

 

[p. xii]

long-contemplated work on the Gypsies. Unfortunately other interests intervened, and the work was never completed. It was one of the many unfinished things Burton intended to complete when he should have quitted the Consular Service. He hoped, for instance, to make fuller inquiries concerning the Gypsies in France, Germany, and other countries of Europe, and especially he intended to write a chapter on the Gypsies in England on his return home. Even as it stands, however, The Gypsy is a valuable addition to ethnology; for apart from Burton’s rare knowledge of strange peoples and tongues, his connexion with the Gypsies lends to the subject a unique interest. There is no doubt that he was affiliated to this strange people by nature, if not by descent. To quote from the Gypsy Lore Journal 1:

 

“Whether there may not be also a tinge of Arab, or perhaps of Gypsy blood in Burton’s race, is a point which is perhaps open to question. For the latter suspicion an excuse may be found in the incurable restlessness which has beset him since his infancy, a restlessness which has effectually prevented him from ever settling long in any one place, and in the singular idiosyncrasy  which his friends have

 

                                                 1 January, 1891.

 

[p. xiii]

 

often remarked—the peculiarity of his eyes. ‘When it (the eye) looks at you,’ said one who knows him well, ‘it looks through you, and then, glazing over, seems to see something behind you. Richard Burton is the only man (not a Gypsy) with that peculiarity, and he shares with them the same horror of a corpse, death-bed scenes, and graveyards, though caring little for his own

life.’ When to this remarkable fact be added the scarcely less interesting detail that ‘Burton’ is one of the half-dozen distinctively Romany names, it is evident that the suspicion of Sir Richard Burton having a drop of Gypsy blood in his descent—crossed and commingled though it be with an English, Scottish, French, and Irish strain is not altogether unreasonable.”

 

On this subject Lady Burton also wrote:

 

“In the January number of the Gypsy Lore Journal a passage is quoted from ‘a short sketch of the career’ of my husband (a little black pamphlet) which half suspects a remote drop of Gypsy blood in him. There is no proof that this was ever the case; but there is no question that he showed many of their peculiarities in appearance, disposition, and speech—speaking Romany

like themselves. Nor did we ever enter a Gypsy camp without their claiming him ‘What are you doing with a black coat on?’

 

[p. xiv]

 

they would say ‘why don’t you join us and be our King?’”1

 

Whether the affinity was one of blood or of nature does not greatly matter; in either case it lends a special interest to Burton’s study of the gypsy….

 

 

-- W. H. WILKINS

 


 

 

To download this book in PDF (3MB) or to read online, go to:

 

   http://www.jrbooksonline.com/jgei.htm

 

 




 

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I entered ‘Gypsy’ into their search box.  This is what I got there are probably more:

 

 

Titles

Etext-No.

Author

Title

Language

452

 

Birrell, Augustine, 1850-1933 [Commentator]


Borrow, George Henry, 1803-1881


Sullivan, Edmund J., 1869-1933 [Illustrator]

 

 

 

Lavengro; the Scholar, the Gypsy, the Priest

English

 

20198

 

Borrow, George Henry, 1803-1881


Watts, Theodore [Editor]

 

Lavengro
the Scholar - the Gypsy - the Priest

 

 

 

English

2733

 

 

Borrow, George Henry, 1803-1881

 

Romano Lavo-Lil: word book of the Romany; or, English Gypsy language

 

English

 

18582

 

Phelps, Elizabeth Stuart, 1844-1911

Gypsy Breynton

English

18646

 

Phelps, Elizabeth Stuart, 1844-1911

Gypsy's Cousin Joy

English

565

 

Borrow, George Henry, 1803-1881 

The Zincali: an account of the gypsies of Spain

 

 

English

 




 

 

 

The Pariah Syndrome:
An account of Gypsy slavery and persecution


by Ian Hancock

 

 

Available to read online or to down load in ASCII format @

 

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5121/pariah-contents.htm

 

 

*   *   * 

 

 

…and while you’re there, definitely check out:

 Patrin Web Journal: Romani Culture and History.

 

 Patrin is a learning resource and information centre about Romani culture, social issues, and current events.

 

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/5121/patrin.htm

 

 

 

 

 




Gypsy Social Organization

       The Rom are unique among nomadic groups still  adhering strictly to archaic tribal allegiances, in that their nomadism is on a worldwide scale...The true Gypsy is a member of a distinct ethnic group, sharing a basically common language and particular ways of behavior...The tribes are divided into witzas, or groups descended from a common ancestor, after whom the subtribe is named.  For practical purposes, the Gypsies band together in Kumpanias, which form and disband according to changing patterns of interest or circumstances.  These temporary relationships are ruled by contractual laws.  The kumpania is led by a Rom Baro, or Capo, usually a man in his prime.  He is chosen for his knowledge of the ways of life and the language of the countries through which the Rom travel, or intend to travel, as well as for his resourcefulness in dealing with emergencies and for his willingness to lead.  His functions give him no special prerogatives, and his only remuneration is the honor he derives from his position.  There also exists a more visible form of “authority,”the so-called kings, or vaivodes, who are essentially figureheads and serve as liaison with the Gaje.

 

       Above and beyond the kumpania there is the traditional authority of the kris, or intertribal court of justice.  The kris convenes at irregular intervals and as need requires.  Because of the inevitable circumstances of nomadic life, the selection of the krisatora, or judges, may depend on what ever qualified men are available at  a given time.   Most of the sentences imposed by the kris are fines to be paid in food and drink to all those tribesmen attending the kris.  The kris can also impose temporary banishment on any member found to suffer an infectious disease; his household may also be banished.  Proof of medical cure ends the banishment.

 

       The effectiveness of the pronouncements of the kris depends essentially on the acceptance of its decisions by the majority of the Rom.  This acceptance, in turn , depends on belief in the solakh (“solemn oath”) and enforcement by the mule, the ancestor spirits....

 

--Encyclopaedia Americana  (retrieved around 1981

 

 



Gipsy Pride

What were their forefathers a few generations ago?    the  Highlanders a nest  of marauding thieves, and the Borders little better.  Or society at the present day - what is it but a compound of deceit and hypocrisy?  People say that the Gipsies steal.  True; some o f them steal chickens, vegetables, and such things;  but what is that compared to the robbery of widows and orphans, the lying and cheating of traders, the swindling, the robberies the murders, the ignorance, the squalor, and the debaucheries of so many of the white race:  What are all these compared to the simple vice of the Gipsies:  What is the ancestry they boast of , compared, in point of antiquity, to ours:  People may despise the Gipsies, but they  certainly despise all others not of their own race: the veriest beggar Gipsy, without shoes to his feet, considers himself better than the queen that sits upon the throne.  People say that Gipsies are blackguards.  Well, if some of them are blackguards, they are at least illustrious blackguards descent, and so if fact; for thy never rob each other, and far less do they rob or ruin those of their own family.”

 

            —Walter Simson  p.11 

      THE HISTORY OF THE GYPSIES

         DX 115 S5 1878

 

 

 



Costuming ThroughArtistic Renderings

 

 Though gypsy research material can sometimes be hard to find, don’t over look the fact that  artists have always existed .  And what do aritists do?  As an artist friend of mine told me,“Artists paint and draw and sculpt what they see.”

 

Throughout history many artist have become enamoured with the Gypsies.  One such person that she mentioned was Jacques Callot  who as a boy of fourteen or fifteen  ran away from  home (his father was a french  nobleman)  with the Gypsies.  And, what do you know....I had some of his pictures in my files already....    L. Kyleena

 

 

 

Jacques Callot engravings:  Gypsies on the move,   Gypsy camp      1622

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   J. Martin Stock engravings:

 

  Transylvanian Gypsies

 

playing violin & cimbalom

 

1776

 

 

 

 

 

Tournai tapestry: 1490

 

 

I found the Callot pictures in a book of his art.  The tapestry

above was located through an online search for Tournai

tapestries. 

 

The J. Martin Stock engravings and the picture to the right

were both retrieved from my favorite Gypsy book:

THE GYPSIES by Angus Fraser.

 

This portrait "forms a part of a 16c collection of sketches in

Arras in northern France and bears the caption...

'the Egyptian woman who by medical art restored health to the

King of Scotland, given up by the physicians'."  Frazer speculates

the King to be either James IV or James V.