Charles Garnar was born in 1809 and although the parish baptismal record gives his father's name as Martin, not Edward, there is enough evidence to show that Charles was one of Edward's sons.  It may be that Edward, like his oldest son, had the middle name of Martin, a name which reappears in many different branches of his descendants.  Probably the most conclusive evidence is that Charles' two older sons were executors and referred to as nephews in the will of James Garnar, Charles' youngest brother.

Charles married Rhoda Stebbings at St Giles, Camberwell in 1835.  Rhoda, who had been born in the Norfolk village of Garboldisham in 1810, was the aunt of the two other Stebbings, Frederick and Mary Ann, who were later to marry two of Charles' siblings, Mary Ann and Martin.

Charles was a leather dresser like his father, but does not seem to have been directly associated with his two younger brothers, Martin and Thomas, who are shown in the trade directories as being the sons of Edward who took over his leather business in about 1850.

Charles died in 1855 and his widow Rhoda remarried in 1859 to James Pearse.  In 1861 they were living at Dockhead Road, Bermondsey and in 1871 Rhoda, a widow for the second time, was living in Upper Grange Road, Bermondsey with 3 of her second husband's daughters and her two younger sons.  She died in 1878.

Charles' two older sons, Charles Thomas (born in 1836) and Edward Martin (born in 1840) went into business together as leather manufacturers.  In 1861 they were both living at 6 Spa Road, Bermondsey and a directory of 1862 gives this address as their business address.  By 1871 they had premises at 96 Rockingham Street, Newington Causeway (SE London) and a tannery and parchment works at Victory Place, New Kent Road.  Although both these sons married, neither appear to have had any children.

Charles married Emily Mary Yates who had been living at Spa Road with him in 1861.  Emily died aged 34 at 96 Rockingham Street in 1872.  The following year Charles married Jane Fryer and in 1881 and 1891 they were living at 168 New Kent Road, Newington.  By 1901 Charles had retired and they had moved to 8 The Avenue, Beckenham where Charles died in 1909, having lost his wife 5 years earlier.

Edward married Eliza Elton Oliver in 1877.  In 1881 they were living at 11 Merrick Square, Newington and in 1891 they were at 126 Coldharbour Lane, Lambeth.  When Edward retired, they moved to 113 Widmore Road, Bromley.  Eliza died here in 1910 and Edward in 1922.

Charles' daughter Mary Ann (born in 1843) married Edgar Ivison in 1867.  In 1871 they were living at  23 Manley Place Lambeth and Edgar was a House Painter; in 1881 they were at 176 Walworth Road, Newington and Edgar was a Builder's Foreman.  They had both died by the next census, Mary Ann in 1885 and Edgar in 1891. 

Edgar and Mary Ann's son, Edgar James Ivison born in 1869 married Alice Taylor in 1893 and in 1901 they were at Fairview, Kingsthorpe Grove, Northampton where Edgar was a Sectional Engineer with the Post Office.  One of their sons, Edgar Sydney Ivison, was a Gunner with the 4th London Brigade, Royal Field Artillery in the 1st World War and was killed when his troopship was torpedoed near to Salonika in 1915; the other son Horace Garnar Ivison born in 1899 was a 2nd Lieutenant with the Corps of Royal Engineers, survived the war and died in Sydney Australia aged 93 in 1992. 

Their daughter Florence Ivison was only 9 when her mother died and it seems that she lived first with her uncle Edward, and possibly later with her uncle George (as she appears on many of their family photographs).

Charles' youngest son, George William was born in 1846 and died in 1905.  Unlike his brothers he went into the retail trade and became a 'Provision Merchant' with a shop in Holborn.  He married Caroline Clark and they had 9 children between 1874 and 1890: 

Edward James born in 1874 and died just before his 1st birthday.

Maud Caroline born in 1875 married Charles Buckingham in 1897 and had 3 children, Gladys Maud in 1898, Marjorie Ida in 1903 and Joseph in 1918.  The two girls died within a week of each other on 31 December 1909 and 5 January 1910.  Charles died in 1925 but Maud survived until her 80's and died in 1957.

Edward George born in 1878 became a Plumber.  In 1914 he married Jane Elizabeth Littleford nee Gittins at Grosmont, Monmouth.  Edward was living at St Leonards, Hereford at this time.  

Rhoda Ann born in 1880 died when she was 30 in 1911.

Eliza Rachel born in 1881 did not marry but lived until her 80's and died in 1970 at Hazel Cottage, Ashurst, Hants. In the 1920's she and her sister Mary Ann had owned a General and Fancy Drapers at 235 Clapham Rd, Stockwell.  In 1925 the partnership was dissolved and Eliza continued to run the business on her own.

Thomas Charles born in 1884 was an assistant in his father's shop in 1901 and later became a Wine and Spirit Merchant.  He married Elsie Rogers in 1909.  He died at Elm Lodge, Rochford, Essex in 1963.

Mary Ann born in 1885 did not marry and died in 1966.

William Martin born in 1887 died aged 3 in 1890.

Ernest Frederick James born in 1890 was a Lance Corporal and Sergeant with the East Kent Regiment in the 1st World War and served in the Balkans in 1915.  In 1939 he married Mary Gibson, and in his 70's he married Dorothy May in 1962.  He died in 1976 at Chalvington Road, Hailsham East, leaving an estate of £64,000.

The photograph shows some of the children of George and Caroline.  The older man in the middle is possibly Edward Martin Garnar, George's brother, who would have been in his 70's during the 1st World War when this photo seems to have been taken.

Back:  Charles Buckingham (husband of Maud), Ernest Frederick James, Thomas Charles

Front:  Eliza Rachel, Mary Ann, Edward, Maud Caroline and Florence Ivison.