IT'S MICHIGAN WEEK

Number 1 vs Number 2

Series        Michigan 57 -- Ohio State 39 -- 6 Ties 

 As Ohio State's head coach Jim Tressel has led the Buckeyes to 4 victories out of the last 5 games he has coached against Michigan. This is seemingly a total turnaround from when John Cooper (2-10-1 vs Michigan) was the head coach for Ohio State. Tressel has one National Championship as the head coach for Ohio State and is poised to for a second. All he has to do is get the Buckeyes to beat Michigan and Ohio State is guaranteed a trip to Glendale, Arizona. Lose this game and it's Michigan who's guaranteed the trip. Just another chapter in the storied rivalry.

The issue is which team will Ohio State play against if the Buckeyes win? Will they get a rematch with Michigan win or lose this week? Or, if Ohio State loses to Michigan, will the Buckeyes miss out on the National Championship game altogether? 

Dennis Dodd, of CBSSportsline.com states in his article titled It's simple: Win your conference before you play for BCS title;

"One team is going to lose. Which means one team is not going to win the Big Ten title. But could play for the national championship."

        This is true. But it's not like this kind of thing hasn't happened before.  

Dennis Dodd explains in one example from the same article;

"Nebraska lose by 26 to Colorado in its final regular-season game in 2001. The scarred 'Skers didn't even win their own division but played for the national championship."

There is a lot of animosity over Ohio State and Michigan playing in the National Championship game against each other. Some, like Dennis Dodd, feel a team should win their conference. Others simply don't like the idea of two teams from the same conference being represented. Some just don't like the idea because it's two teams from a conference that their favorite team(s) aren't affiliated with.

Dennis Dodd explains it like this "The only outrage seems to be that for the first time two teams from one conference (Big Ten) would play for the BCS title. It's kind of like Microsoft playing a charity pickup basketball game between corporate execs where all the proceeds go to -- Microsoft."

There are those of us who believe that since we're stuck with the BCS then the best two teams should play for the National Championship regardless of what conference those two teams are affiliated with or whether both teams won a conference title. If you don't believe this way then undefeateds Boise State and/or Rutgers should play for the National Title since each is likely to win their conference and be undefeated. Yet, neither team is better than Ohio State, Michigan, Southern California, Florida, Notre Dame, and possibly others like Wisconsin, Arkansas, or LSU.

Gregg Doyel said it best in his CBSSportsline.com article titled Michigan-Ohio State on Saturday should only be Part I when he stated "Whether you or me or anyone wants to see a Michigan-Ohio State rematch is irrelevant. Given the way this season has played out, a competitive game on Saturday between Michigan and Ohio State must produce a BCS title game sequel. Seems clear to me anyway. Lots of poll-influencing media members aren't seeing it that way. They're looking at Saturday's Michigan-OSU game as an elimination contest. It's illogical and unfair."

The only true measuring sticks of figuring which teams are the best is to look at team records, stats, and who they played since every team doesn't play every team. "To find the best one-loss team in college football, don't look at when they got beat. Look at who beat 'em.", said by Gregg Doyel.

Therefore, if Ohio State wins then Michigan would be the most deserving one loss team since the Wolverines beat Notre Dame and Wisconsin. If Michigan wins then Ohio State would be the most deserving one loss team since they beat Texas and their only loss would be to the number 2 team at game time.

 

BCS Poll	Conference				Overall					Home		Away
Team	W	L	PF	PA	W	L	PF	PA	Str	W	L	W	L
1  Ohio St.	7	0	263	53	11	0	394	86	Won 11	6	0	5	0
2  Michigan	7	0	174	62	11	0	323	133	Won 11	7	0	4	0
3  USC	6	1	210	109	8	1	288	133	Won 2	4	0	4	1
4  Florida	7	1	178	126	9	1	254	133	Won 3	7	0	2	1
5  Notre Dame	0	0	0	0	9	1	324	216	Won 7	5	1	4	0
6  Rutgers	4	0	94	68	9	0	262	98	Won 9	5	0	4	0
7  Arkansas	6	0	167	89	9	1	308	156	Won 9	6	1	3	0
8  W Virginia	3	1	154	96	8	1	362	157	Won 1	5	0	3	1
9  Wisconsin	7	1	245	116	10	1	328	140	Won 7	6	0	4	1
10 Louisville	3	1	120	92	8	1	340	150	Lost 1	4	0	4	1
11 LSU	4	2	166	85	8	2	343	104	Won 4	7	0	1	2

The following table shows key losses and key wins.

1 Ohio State				Sep 9 Sep 23	@Texas Penn St.	Won 24-7 Won 28-6
2 Michigan				Sep 16 Sep 23 Oct 14	@Notre Dame Wisconsin @Penn St.	Won 47-21 Won 27-13 Won 17-10
3 USC	Oct 28	@Oregon St.	Lost 31-33	Sep 2 Sep 16 Nov 11	@Arkansas Nebraska Oregon	Won 50-14 Won 28-10 Won 35-10
4 Florida	Oct 14	@Auburn	Lost 17-27	Sep 16 Oct 7	@Tennessee LSU	Won 21-20 Won 23-10
5 Notre Dame	Sep 16	Michigan	Lost 21-47	Sep 2 Sep 9	@Georgia Tech Penn St.	Won 14-10 Won 41-17
6 Rutgers				Oct 21 Nov 9	@Pittsburgh Louisville	Won 20-10 Won 28-25
7 Arkansas	Sep 2	Southern Cal.	Lost 14-50	Oct 7 Nov 11	@Auburn Tennessee	Won 27-10 Won 31-14
8 West Virginia	Nov 2	@Louisville	Lost 34-44	Sep 14 Nov 11	Maryland Cincinnati	Won 45-24 Won 42-24
9 Wisconsin	Sep 23	@Michigan	Lost 13-27	Nov 4 Nov 11	Penn St. @Iowa	Won 13-3 Won 24-21
10 Louisville	Nov 9	@Rutgers	Lost 25-28	Sep 16 Nov 2	Miami (Fla.) West Virginia	Won 31-7 Won 44-34
11 LSU	Sep 16 Oct 7	@Auburn @Florida	Lost 3-7 Lost 10-23	Sep 9 Nov 4	Arizona @Tennessee	Won 45-3 Won 28-24

 

OSU		UM
761-300-53	Overall Record	849 -280-36
1890	First Team	1879
1913	When joined Big 10	1896
7	National Championships	11
30	Big Ten Titles	42
6-7 (13)	Rose Bowl Record	8-11 (19)
18-19 (37)	All Bowls Record	18-19 (37)
167	All-Americans	146
6	Heisman Trophy Winners	3
28	National Awards	12
58	First round Draft Picks	47
28	College Football Hall of Fame	32
25	Academic All-Americans	16

 

 

Team Game Records

UM	Scoring Records	OSU
1946, 58 (1902, 86)	most points	50, 1961 and 1968
(58-6) 1946, 52 (86-0) 1902, 86	victory margin	38, 1935 (38-0)
1946, 8 (1902, 15)	touchdowns	7, 1968
1909, 1981 and 1998, 3	field goals	4, 1974
1946, 7 (1902, 11)	point after tds	8, 1961
1943, 531 1950, 27	total offense highest lowest	512, 1961 41, 1950
UM	Rushing Records	OSU
1943, 426	rushing yards	421,  1968
1943, 73	rushing attempts	79, 1968
1998, 4	fewest yards	16, 1950
1943, 6 (1902, 15)	rushing tds	7, 1968
UM	Passing Records	OSU
1998, 56	most pass attempts	48, 2000
1928, 6	fewest attempts	4, 1944 and  1955
1998, 31	pass completions	28, 1992
1976, 1950, 0	fewest completions	0, 1944, 1973
1998, 375	passing yards	381, 1995
	ave. completion	28.6, 1961 (5 minimum)
1946, 4	passing tds	3, 1942 and 1998
UM	First downs	OSU
1986, 27	most first downs	28, 1968
1976, 22	rushing first downs	24, 1968
1998, 15	passing first downs
0, 1950	fewest first downs	3, 1950
UM	Kicking Game	OSU
1950, 24	most punts	21, 1950
1950, 723	punt yardage	685, 1950
1940, (3) 50	ave. punt yardage	52.3 (8),  1976
1959 and 1961, 2	fewest punts	1, 1959 and 1961
1933, 12	most punt returns	8, 1938
1997, 101	punt return yardage	166, 1971
1968, 9	kickoff returns	11, 1946
1961, (8) 241	kickoff return yards	172 (11), 1946
1952, 8	turnovers by	7, 1969
1952, 4	fumbles by	5, 1950
1940 and 1969, 6	interceptions by	5, 1953
** based on information in the Ohio State and Michigan Media Guides (2002 and earlier); One Game Season compiled by Steve White, 1995; Michigan Daily and Michigan Alumnus Magazine articles and other sources.

 

Woody vs Bo, 1969-1978
Date	Site	Ranking		Results			Big 10 Finish		Attendance
		UM	OSU	W	UM	OSU	UM	OSU
11/22/1969	Ann Arbor	12	1	UM	24	12	1st (T)	1st (T)	103,588
11/21/1970	Columbus	4	5	OSU	9	20	2nd (T)	1st	87,331
11/20/1971	Ann Arbor	3		UM	10	7	1st	3rd (T)	104,016
11/25/1972	Columbus	3	9	OSU	11	14	1st (T)	1st (T)	87,040
11/24/1973	Ann Arbor	4	1	T	10	10	1st (T)	1st (T)	105,233
11/23/1974	Columbus	3	4	OSU	10	12	1st (T)	1st (T)	88,234
11/22/1975	Ann Arbor	5	3	OSU	14	21	2nd	1st	105,543
11/20/1976	Columbus	4	8	UM	22	0	1st (T)	1st (T)	88,250
11/19/1977	Ann Arbor	5	4	UM	14	6	1st (T)	1st (T)	105,312
11/25/1978	Columbus	6	16	UM	14	3	1st (T)	4th	88,358

 

All-Time UM-OSU Results
Date	Site	Ranking		Results			Big 10 Finish		Attendance
		UM	OSU	W	UM	OSU	UM	OSU
10/16/1897	Ann Arbor			UM	36	0	3rd	*
11/24/1900	Ann Arbor			T	0	0	5th	*
11/9/1901	Columbus			UM	21	0	1st	*
10/25/1902	Ann Arbor			UM	86	0	1st	*
11/7/1903	Ann Arbor			UM	36	0	1st	*	5,000
10/15/1904	Columbus			UM	31	6	1st	*	8,000
11/11/1905	Ann Arbor			UM	40	0	2nd (T)	*	8,000
10/20/1906	Columbus			UM	6	0	1st (T)	*	6,000
10/26/1907	Ann Arbor			UM	22	0	*	*	7,000
10/24/1908	Columbus			UM	10	6	*	*
10/16/1909	Ann Arbor			UM	33	6	*	*
10/22/1910	Columbus			T	3	3	*	*
10/21/1911	Ann Arbor			UM	19	0	*	*	5,000
10/19/1912	Columbus			UM	14	0	*	*	10,000
11/30/1918	Columbus			UM	14	0	1st (T)	9th	7,000
10/25/1919	Ann Arbor			OSU	3	13	7th	2nd	25,000
Date	Site	Ranking		Results			Big 10 Finish		Attendance
		UM	OSU	W	UM	OSU	UM	OSU
11/6/1920	Columbus			OSU	7	14	6th (T)	1st
10/22/1921	Ann Arbor (HC)			OSU	0	14	5th (T)	2nd (T)	45,000
10/21/1922	Columbus			UM	19	0	1st (T)	8th	71,000
10/22/1923	Ann Arbor			UM	23	0	1st (T)	8th	50,000
11/15/1924	Columbus			UM	16	6	4th	7th (T)	70,000
11/14/1925	Ann Arbor			UM	10	0	1st	8th	47,000
11/13/1926	Columbus			UM	17	16	1st (T)	3rd	90,411
10/22/1927	Ann Arbor			UM	21	0	3rd	6th	84,401
10/20/1928	Columbus			OSU	7	19	7th	4th (T)	72,439
10/19/1929	Ann Arbor			OSU	0	7	8th	5th (T)	85,088
Date	Site	Ranking		Results			Big 10 Finish		Attendance
		UM	OSU	W	UM	OSU	UM	OSU
10/18/1930	Columbus			UM	13	0	1st (T)	4th (T)	68,459
10/17/1931	Ann Arbor			OSU	0	7	1st (T)	4th	58,026
10/15/1932	Columbus			UM	14	10	1st (T)	4th	40,700
10/21/1933	Ann Arbor (HC)			UM	13	0	1st (T)	3rd	82,606
11/17/1934	Columbus			OSU	0	34	10th	2nd	62,893
11/23/1935	Ann Arbor			OSU	0	38	5th (T)	1st (T)	53,322
11/21/1936	Columbus		18	OSU	0	21	8th (T)	2nd (T)	56,277
11/20/1937	Ann Arbor		19	OSU	0	21	4th (T)	2nd	56,766
11/19/1938	Columbus	17		UM	18	0	2nd (T)	5th	64,413
11/25/1939	Ann Arbor		6	UM	21	14	4th (T)	1st	78,815
Date	Site	Ranking		Results			Big 10 Finish		Attendance
		UM	OSU	W	UM	OSU	UM	OSU
11/23/1940	Columbus	7		UM	40	0	2nd	4th (T)	73,480
11/22/1941	Ann Arbor	5	14	T	20	20	2nd (T)	2nd (T)	84,581
11/21/1942	Columbus	4	5	OSU	7	21	3rd (T)	1st	71,691
11/20/1943	Ann Arbor	4		UM	45	7	1st (T)	8th	39,139
11/25/1944	Columbus	6	3	OSU	14	18	2nd	1st	70,449
11/24/1945	Ann Arbor (HC)	8	7	UM	7	3	2nd	3rd	85,200
11/23/1946	Columbus	8		UM	58	6	2nd	6th (T)	79,735
11/22/1947	Ann Arbor	1		UM	21	0	1st	9th	85,938
11/20/1948	Columbus	1	18	UM	13	3	1st	4th	78,603
11/19/1949	Ann Arbor	5	7	T	7	7	1st (T)	1st (T)	97,239
Date	Site	Ranking		Results			Big 10 Finish		Attendance
		UM	OSU	W	UM	OSU	UM	OSU
11/25/1950	Columbus		8	UM	9	3	1st	2nd	79,868
11/24/1951	Ann Arbor			UM	7	0	4th	5th	93,411
11/22/1952	Columbus	12		OSU	7	27	4th	3rd	81,541
11/21/1953	Ann Arbor			UM	20	0	5th	4th	87,048
11/20/1954	Columbus	12	1	OSU	7	21	2nd (T)	1st	78,447
11/19/1955	Ann Arbor	6	9	OSU	0	17	3rd (T)	1st	97,369
11/24/1956	Columbus	9	12	UM	19	0	2nd	4th (T)	78,830
11/23/1957	Ann Arbor	19	3	OSU	14	31	6th	1st	101,001
11/22/1958	Columbus		11	OSU	14	20	7th	3rd	79,771
11/21/1959	Ann Arbor			UM	23	14	7th	8th (T)	88,804
Date	Site	Ranking		Results			Big 10 Finish		Attendance
		UM	OSU	W	UM	OSU	UM	OSU
11/19/1960	Columbus		10	OSU	0	7	5th	3rd	83,107
11/25/1961	Ann Arbor		2	OSU	20	50	6th	1st	80,444
11/24/1962	Columbus			OSU	0	28	10th	3rd (T)	82,349
11/23/1963	Ann Arbor			OSU	10	14	5th (T)	2nd (T)	36,424
11/21/1964	Columbus	6	7	UM	10	0	1st	2nd	84,685
11/20/1965	Ann Arbor			OSU	7	9	7th (T)	2nd	77,333
11/19/1966	Columbus			UM	17	3	3rd (T)	6th	84,403
11/25/1967	Ann Arbor			OSU	14	24	5th (T)	4th	64,144
11/23/1968	Columbus	4	2	OSU	14	50	2nd	1st	85,371
11/22/1969	Ann Arbor	12	1	UM	24	12	1st (T)	1st (T)	103,588
Date	Site	Ranking		Results			Big 10 Finish		Attendance
		UM	OSU	W	UM	OSU	UM	OSU
11/21/1970	Columbus	4	5	OSU	9	20	2nd (T)	1st	87,331
11/20/1971	Ann Arbor	3		UM	10	7	1st	3rd (T)	104,016
11/25/1972	Columbus	3	9	OSU	11	14	1st (T)	1st (T)	87,040
11/24/1973	Ann Arbor	4	1	T	10	10	1st (T)	1st (T)	105,233
11/23/1974	Columbus	3	4	OSU	10	12	1st (T)	1st (T)	88,234
11/22/1975	Ann Arbor	5	3	OSU	14	21	2nd	1st	105,543
11/20/1976	Columbus	4	8	UM	22	0	1st (T)	1st (T)	88,250
11/19/1977	Ann Arbor	5	4	UM	14	6	1st (T)	1st (T)	105,312
11/25/1978	Columbus	6	16	UM	14	3	1st (T)	4th	88,358
11/17/1979	Ann Arbor	13	2	OSU	15	18	3rd	1st	106,255
Date	Site	Ranking		Results			Big 10 Finish		Attendance
		UM	OSU	W	UM	OSU	UM	OSU
11/22/1980	Columbus	10	5	UM	9	3	1st	2nd	88,827
11/21/1981	Ann Arbor	7		OSU	9	14	3rd (T)	1st	106,043
11/21/1982	Columbus	13		OSU	14	24	1st (T)	2nd	90,252
11/19/1983	Ann Arbor	8	10	UM	24	21	2nd	4th	106,115
11/17/1984	Columbus		11	OSU	6	21	6th	1st	90,286
11/23/1985	Ann Arbor	6	12	UM	27	17	2nd	4th (T)	106,102
11/22/1986	Columbus	6	7	UM	26	24	1st (T)	1st (T)	103,169
11/21/1987	Ann Arbor			OSU	20	23	4th	5th	106,031
11/19/1988	Columbus	12		UM	34	31	1st	7th	90,176
11/25/1989	Ann Arbor	3	20	UM	28	18	1st	3rd	103,450
Date	Site	Ranking		Results			Big 10 Finish		Attendance
		UM	OSU	W	UM	OSU	UM	OSU
11/24/1990	Columbus	15	19	UM	16	13	1st (T)	5th	90,054
11/23/1991	Ann Arbor	4	18	UM	31	3	1st	3rd	106,156
11/21/1992	Columbus	6	17	T	13	13	1st	2nd	95,330
11/20/1993	Ann Arbor		5	UM	28	0	4th	1st (T)	106,867
11/19/1994	Columbus	15	22	OSU	6	22	3rd	2nd	93,869
11/25/1995	Ann Arbor	18	2	UM	31	23	3rd	2nd	106,288
11/23/1996	Columbus	21	2	UM	13	9	5th (T)	1st	94,676
11/22/1997	Ann Arbor	1	4	UM	20	14	1st	2nd	106,982
11/21/1998	Columbus	11	7	OSU	16	31	1st (T)	1st (T)	94,339
11/21/1999	Ann Arbor	10		UM	24	17	2nd (T)	8th	111,575
11/18/2000	Columbus	19	12	UM	38	26	1st (T)	4th	98,568
11/24/2001	Ann Arbor	11		OSU	20	26	2nd (T)	3rd	111,571
11/23/2002	Columbus	12	2	OSU	9	14	3rd	1st	105,539
11/22/2003	Ann Arbor	5	4	UM	35	21	1st	2nd	112,118
11/20/2004	Columbus	7		OSU	21	37	1st (T)	5th (T)	105,456
11/19/2005	Ann Arbor	17	8	OSU	21	25	3rd (T)	1st (T)	111,591
* = not in Big Ten Conference

 

 

Michigan Coaches' Records vs. Ohio State
Coach		Years		Overall		vs OSU
[No Coaches]		1879-1890		23-10-1
Frank Crawford		1891		4-5-0
Frank E. Barbour		1892-1893		14-8-0
William McCauley		1894-1895		17-2-1
William D.Ward		1896		9-1-0
Gustave Ferbert		1897-1899		24-3-1		1-0-0
Langdon "Biff" Lea		1900		7-2-1		0-0-1
Fielding H. Yost		1901-1923, 1925-1926		165-29-10		16-3-1
George Little		1924		6-2-0		1-0-0
Elton E. Weiman		1927-1928		9-6-1		1-1-0
Harry Kipke		1929-1937		46-26-4		3-6-0
Herbert O. "Fritz" Crisler		1938-1947		71-16-3		7-2-1
Bennie Oosterbaan		1948-1958		63-33-4		5-5-1
Chalmers "Bump" Elliott		1959-1968		51-42-2		3-7-0
Glenn "Bo" Schembechler		1969-1989		198-48-5		11-9-1
Gary Moeller		1990-1994		44-13-4		3-1-1
Lloyd Carr		1995-2005		102-33-0*		6-5-0

Ohio State Coaches' Records vs. Michigan
Coach		Years		Overall		vs UM
Alexander S. Lilley		1890-1891		3-5-0
Jack Ryder		1892-1895, 1898		22-22-2
Charles Hickey		1896		5-5-1
David F. Edwards		1897		1-7-1		0-1-0
John B. Eckstorm		1899-1901		22-4-3		0-1-1
Perry Hale		1902-1903		14-5-2		0-2-0
E.R. Sweatland		1903-1905		14-7-2		0-2-0
Albert E. Herrnstein		1906-1909		28-10-1		0-4-0
Howard Jones		1910		6-1-3		0-0-1
Henry Vaughn		1911		5-3-2		0-1-0
John R. Richards		1912		6-3-0		0-1-0
John W. Wilce		1913-1928		78-33-9		4-7-0
Sam S. Willaman		1929-1932		26-10-5		2-3-0
Francis A.Schmidt		1934-1940		39-16-1		4-3-0
Paul E. Brown		1940-1943		18-8-1		1-1-1
Carroll C. Widdoes		1944-1945		16-2-0		1-1-0
Paul O. Bixlar		1946		4-3-2		0-1-0
Wesley E. Fesler		1947-1950		21-13-3		0-3-1
Woody Hayes		1951-1978		205-61-10		16-11-1
Earle Bruce		1979-1987		81-26-1		5-4-0
John Cooper		1988-2000		111-43-4		2-10-1
Jim Tressel		2001-2005		49-13-0*		4-1-0