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When: 9/24/02
What kind: Rant on behalf of others Where: here

Response to rant 24583

To those who tell you 'it's in the bible', well, it's not.

People that say that refer to the passage in Genesis where God told Noah to go 'forth and multiply'. Besides the fact that that was for NOAH ALONE, it also ignores the fact that there were no people on earth. He HAD to breed, and it didn't cost him anything besides. This command was NOT part of the ten commandments.

Possible responses: Tell them that they should sacrifice their first born, because God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. If they are going to mis apply biblical commands, they have to misapply all of them, not just the ones they like.

Cite the biblical personalities that did not have children: Paul, Peter, John, Ezekiel, Isaiah, JESUS, John the Baptist, ad nauseum. None of these people were condemned for not having kids

If you are an atheist or agnostic, there ya go. Not everyone claims religious belief, whether they like it or no. Even I accept that reality

Tell them if not having kids is sufficient to keep one out of Paradise, then what was the point of Jesus death? We can just have kids and be 'saved'.

If not having kids is selfish, ask them to tell you why they have kids, but not to use the words I, ME, or MY, all pronouns that focus on SELF. This shuts a lot of people up.

People that use this argument don't know their bibles, and probably are very self-righteous anyway, ascribing their reproductive ability to their heavenly worthiness. The focus is on them and their children, not on God, thus they prove their level of 'selfishness' exceeds even God's.

I hope this helps someone. Print this and keep it.

Peace to all


When: All of the time!
Where: Various Living Rooms and Dining Room Tables
Type: Garden-variety rant

Years ago, I noticed a habit of mine that many other (married & sprog-addled) women thought of as unattractive. I would be visiting at a childed in-laws' or friends' house with my former husband. While the women-folk, in the kitchen or the kids' bedrooms, were gabbing incessantly about the children - anything from Crayola projects to size of the turds in Baybee's diaper - I would either be in the living room or still at the dinner table talking with the men-folk about politics, travel, or worldwide affairs. I also remember during my then-husband's visit from his brother-in-law and his family how I mostly spoke with the man and that I was next to his side enjoying an interesting conversation at the market while the wifey hemmed 'n hawed over the kidlets. I was told by more than one wife of these men how my "talking up to their husbands" was not nice since I was a married woman and the men were also wearing wedding bands. So I was supposed to join the moos in the kitchen to listen to "Tales from Pre-School" or "The Philosophy of Talking Baby-Talk 24/7"? No way. Too boring. Now I choose my friends among the non-childed portion of society where I will not be chastised for having a nice conversation with a man instead of bowing to Queen Mommy.

CF Sultana!


When: July 15, 2002
Where: Minnesota - "Breed or we'll kill you"
Type: Garden-variety rant

This site is great. I have just narrowly escaped 4 years of poverty, starvation and threat of incarceration - in the US - all thanks to breeders. Apparently in the Midwest people want to burn you at the stake as a witch for not breeding. I lost TWO jobs to bitchy single moos who neeeded the job sooo much more than I - one of them even broke into my apartment, employers fucked me over because I didn't have a brood to feed, the police tried arresting me because I was THREE days overdue on rent because nobody will hire a CF person there, my evil mother thinks I should be locked up because I got my tubes tied. When I was starving in another state I had to flee to, she said, "I can't help you, I have two young children now" - Get this, she had me at age 19 to trick her boyfriend into marrying her; my younger sister when he threatened a divorce, and two more kids JUST to ensure the idiot redneck she married would stay with her. Now my sister's on her second child. Reason? "Because I like to stay up nights". I found few avenues of help for me even when I moved, because housing, welfare, jobs, etc NEED to go to breeders first. Next I'll be posting a good recipe for fried babies. Oh yeah, and I was forced to watch abortion slide shows in a church no less when I was a teenager as part of our "education". Thank God for antidepressants. Too bad abortion isn't retroactive - Thanks for letting me rant :) It sounds bad but my life is better now and I'm glad there are people like you out there! Thanks again.

When: July, 2002
Where: why right here
Type: Garden-variety rant

Dear Walking Womb: How dare you judge people with differing attitudes towards life. No. 1 I don't have kids because I DON'T have a steady male partner( daddy) to help raise a kid! No. 2 I don't have the money to raise a child. No. 3 I don't have the patience (are you advocating that people who may abuse a child are selfish for not having children)? I find that a pretty good reason not to have kids, No. 4 Open your eyes and look at the state of this world. Look at all the selfish, hateful people that you encounter on a daily basis, our resources are continually being taken away because people don't seem to be happy living simple. Our food is processed, our water is polluted, same with air. I find it sad that you catergorize people based on their reproductive status. Quite often people don't have kids for very unselfish reasons. I am sure you will receive similar responses from others as well. JUDGE NOT LEST YOU BE JUDGED YOURSELF. I also find it odd that you quote the bible but engage in premarital sex. A proud mom of the 4 legged variety! I find that I make a better mom to dogs and cats than to kids (and please spare me the "you can't compare pets to kids"). I am very happy with my choices; why can't you be happy for us and just mind your own business? Are we threatening in anyway? I just don't get it? Where is the daddy?

When: Today
Where: Here
Type: Note to lurking breeders

Even the Bible says, " Go forth; be fruitful and multiply." God sais that to Noah in the days after the Great Flood.

Hello?! Of course God said this to Noah in the days after the Great Flood -- everyone was dead! There were only a handful of people, so being fruitful and multiplying was necessary. But I think we can STOP now! We should have stopped about 4 billion people ago (yes, I know that includes me -- so be it). I hardly think that edict applies anymore. If anything, it might be time for God to bring another flood and drown all these useless moron breeders.

When: July 25, 2002
Where: On the job
Type: Other

I get tired of the "motherhood-is-so-selfish" rhetoric from women claiming how life as a mommy makes them less self-absorbed. Yet many mothers will spend endless hours at the gym trying to maintain a Brittany Spears body or seeking the perfect cosmetics to hide the effects of pregnancy, birth, and aging so they can endlessly brag of how they look like their pre-teen or teenage daughters' sisters rather than looking like their moms. It is the same type of self-centeredness. I have known some teenage girls who hated how their mothers acted as if they were in competition with their daughters instead of being the nurturing parent.

A woman I work with is a divorced parent and she is on the Dr. Atkins diet. The lady has lost a lot of weight and looks wonderful. She was always a beautiful person. As we were speaking yesterday during a slow time at work, she mentioned how she was once had the perfect 102 lb. body before pregnancy. She grew up in Brazil, where the importance of a woman's looks starts being ingrained in female children shortly after being expelled from the uterus. Diets, work-outs, plastic surgery, and so forth is the training a girl child recieves because Brazilian culture dictates how women cannot be anything less than beautiful or "perfect".

I asked my co-worker if she had a lot of issues with the enormous weight gain she experienced from a hormonal disorder caused by her pregnancy. The lady admitted that it was not easy to balloon up to almost THREE HUNDRED POUNDS in a FOUR MONTH period because of this illness. Her husband left her even though he was the one who screamed for his wife to have a baby. The man was the typical Brazilian who felt that he deserved a woman who did not take up too much body space. My friend said that only proved her ex was a jerk with no real values. The beautiful thing of my friend's experiences is that she said she was grateful to have gone through that time of being a very obese woman because she learned to build her self-esteem on her other good qualities. For most of this woman's life, her self-worth was only based on her beauty and her trim body yet she always felt that she was not pretty or thin enough and was trying constantly to reach that "brass ring" of total beauty.

It was very nice to talk to this woman, who is a mom and does not scream the "I am not selfish" tirade. She was able to admit how screwed up her values were due to her Brazilian upbringing and the stifling attitudes towards women. My friend has lost well over 100 lbs. and is still reducing. She is not trying to be the perfect Size 2 and knows that her body will never be the same due to the pregnancy even when she does hit the ideal weight. Looking good is important to all of us but it is refreshing how the lady is not aiming to look like her five-year-old daughter's sister but wants to be viewed as a mature woman who has experienced life.

CF Sultana!

When: July 12, 2002
Where: Stupid Boyfriend
Type: I just wanna flame

My boyfriend/fiancee and I have been together for over 10 years, and from the start I told him I don't want any brats, he shared my views and for many years we have been happy but about 2 weeks ago he said he may want kids I tried to convince him of how horrable kids are but he still wants them. He has no right to change his mind now, to have brats all he has to do is have an orgasim, I (being the female) have to carry this thing inside of me which is disgusting enough, but oh no thats not the end of it. Then there is that nasty thing they call child birth which is not only painfull but degrading are you people aware of the fact that it is normal practice for a doctor to cut open a womans vagina during child birth, also the vagina walls are changed from ripples to smooth walls after child birth. The horrors don't end there then you have to take care if this slimmy bundle which is eather crying or shitting all the time. I wish I was sterile.

When: July 26, 2002
Where: newspaper
Type: Hey, did you see this?

Saw this story on the Web site for the Democrat and Chronicle (Rochester, NY) . It pertains to a policy being enacted at a mall in Cheektowaga, a suburb of Buffalo. Here is an excerpt. CHEEKTOWAGA - Mall to teenagers: Bring mom or dad if you want to hang out. Starting in September, youngsters age 16 or under who want to spend Friday or Saturday nights at Walden Galleria in this Buffalo suburb will have to be accompanied by a parent or a guardian 21 or older. The mall's general manager said shoppers will see the change at every entrance with security guards checking IDs. Young teens who aren't with an adult after 4 p.m. will be asked to leave. Go to www.democratandchronicle.com. Then scroll down and click on headline "Buffalo mall will ban unaccompanied teens under age 17"

When: June 2000
Where: The Mooo Midwest
Type: Not a rant -- a rave!

Here's another story with an "oops" - A friend of mine was dating a woman who "oopsed" him and then tried bullying him into rearranging his whole life because of it. He was really stressing out as she smugly planned the rest of his existence... Until she had a miscarriage! Hahahaha, I guess there IS a God! :)

Rant #23386
When: Last weekend
Where: Small town newspaper
Type: Dumb real-world media item

I have a subscription to the weekly newspaper from my old hometown. The feature writer at this paper is notoriously dreadful. Not only does he editorialize everything he writes, his writing skills are terrible, and apparently no one is proofing his work before it goes to press. A recent example: one of his self-important columns pointed out something with which he was certain all "American's" would agree. The subscription was a gift, or I would have canceled it long ago.

He wrote a huge, sappy article a few weeks ago about a little boy who'd been out riding his bike one summer day, full of hopes and dreams, when he was suddenly struck by a car. Yes, that's about the way the article put it. That sort of makes it sound like the car maliciously hunted him down, doesn't it? The boy sustained abysmal injuries and is now in a wheelchair.

So I was talking to my mom, who's not much of a fan of this "writer" either, and I mentioned my irritation with the editorializing. My mom put the facts straight for me; she told me that the little boy had been an absolute hellion, constantly riding his bike out in front of cars, even taunting them like he was daring them to hit him. His parents had been spoken to about this, and they either could not or would not control him. What further infuriated me about this article was how it could have biased readers who didn't know the facts into thinking that some horrible mean person had viciously run down this innocent little cherub. That really was the slant of the article, and I'm surprised the driver's name and address weren't printed.

So while normally I would not take pleasure in the suffering of a child, it seems to me like this little shit got exactly what he deserved. I'd mentioned to my parents before that even though I grew up in a pretty small town, I'd definitely been taught that cars belonged in the street and kids did not. I guess people aren't teaching their kids that anymore.

KindlyBean

When: July 30, 2002
Where: Reuters
Type: Hey, did you see this?

This makes me so frickin' mad!!!!!

BERLIN (Reuters) - A cat saved several people's lives by alerting them to a fire in a German apartment block before dying in the flames, police said on Monday.

The cat's miaowing woke up her owner, a 42-year-old woman, who promptly noticed smoke coming from a room in her apartment in the western city of Essen. She called the fire brigade and alerted the other families in the building.

"The cat definitely saved a number of lives," a police spokesman said. "Some of the residents managed to flee the fire, others were brought to safety with ladders."

Two people, including the cat's owner, needed hospital treatment for smoke inhalation.

The cat was not named.

Would it have really been so difficult to stop on your way out of the building and pick up the cat that just saved your life? Further proof that people suck and animals are amazing. --V.

When: 7th July 2002
Where: At work
Type: Garden-variety rant

Has anyone else noticed that although women have striven for equal opportunities and rights, for example the vote and the right to work, all most of them want to do is breed? Why, after all we have done to be treated as equals do these women want nothing more than to stay at home and have children? How many times have we heard of someone who has done well at school or college or have a great job then give it all up to have a child? Do women understand that having children is a choice and is not something you have to do? I fear that they do not realise there is a choice or perhaps feel that they cannot say no to their partners/husbands. Could this be the reason some children are mentally and physical abused, because they were not wanted by their own Mother? So her resentment is shown in violence and verbal abuse. Having a child is not that special after all humans have been doing it for thousands of years, they may think their child is special but its not. They think being a Mother is the 'most important job in the world'. Why do they think this way? What do these people have to say when their child grows up and rapes, abuses a child or murders someone? Do they still see them through rose coloured glasses and blame society/the government/or everyone else?

When: today
Where: AP news wire
Type: Dumb real-world media item

Well, this just takes the cake. I read on the Associated Press newswire what has got to be the most bizarre story of the year. Apparently two KY teens were in an accident. One died, one went to the hospital. There were no facial injuries on either kid. This is important. There were NO facial injuries. NONE.

So what happens? Parents MISIDENTIFIED the kids! Yessiree, the father of the hospitalized kid claimed the dead one, and the family of the dead one said the unconscious one in the hospital bed was their son. I'm just speechless. OTOH, a grandmother, stepbrother and sheriff noticed the mistake right away!

Is this what parental luuuuuuv is all about? Not even being able to recognize your own teenager??? Having to be told by extended family, step-family and community members that, hey, that doesn't look like your son!

Just gives you a warm fuzzy feeling about breeding and breederlove, doesn't it? Ah, the bliss of parenthood! Whatshisname and Whatsherface are such a joy! Maybe this explains all the breeders going around bleating, "Not MYYYYY kid!" and bragging how their chyuld is going to cure cancer, etc. They don't even KNOW which is their kid!!! It could be any old brat slouching around the living room with a baseball cap turned backwards for all they know!

If these were my parents and I was the surviving teen, I think my first act upon regaining consciousness would be to disown those parents and strike out on my own.

When: August 7, 2002
Where: France/NY Post
Type: Not a rant -- a rave!

Hat's off to France! I found this wee bit of good news in the Weird But True column of the New York Post today. "Students who insult their teachers in France may now be thrown in jail. Under a new law, unruly kids will be sent to the slammer for up to six months for being rude, mouthing off, or causing a ruckus in class. they can also be busted for being belligerent to cops, firefighters and train conductors. In addition, there is a fine of $8,000. the law was passed after a study found the number of kids under 18 involved in niolent crime has risen 79 percent in the past 10 years." Hey, it IS a start.

Rant Number: 24444 When: Today
What kind: Garden-variety rant Where: Here

I'm all for parental responsibility, but I do want to let you all know that such a thing as a "bad seed" does exist. How do I know this? My sister.

Though we were raised in exactly the same way, SHE choose to totally fuck up her life by, among other things, refusing to go to school, stealing,and getting addicted to drugs. I know you are all thinking "where were the parents". I'm here to tell you, though my dad was an irresponsible POS, my Mother TRIED. She grounded, disciplined, called social workers, therapists, cops, etc...NO ONE WOULD DO JACK SHIT

The only support we ever got from the cops was that they threatened to send sis to jail, then wouldn't do it, which is of course, an extremely effective method. They even forced my Mother to take my sister back after she had been kicked out of the house (yes, she was 18). Maybe if they had acutally backed up my Mother, just once, things would have been different.

Anyhow, my sister died a year and a half ago, from a drug overdose. My Mother is still grieving and totally upset. I'm doing better, and I realize that most bad kids are the fault of the parents, and am just as quick to be annoyed with them when they let their 2 year old disrupt and entire restaurant. However, in this day and age, it is only a matter of time before a parent can no longer physically control their brats, and only a slightly longer matter of time before the brats realize this. I guess I'm just saying that we should be a little more leniant on parents of teens and pre-teens, because let's face it, how old were you when you stopped obeying your parent's every command? I bet very few of us would say 18. It still makes my blood boil when people blame my Mom for my sister's death. Just needed to vent, although this time I guess the rant is technically ABOUT CF people. I'm sorry if I upset anyone.

Hummingbird

Rant Number: 24449 When: September 18, 2002
What kind: Hey, did you see this? Where: A very good book

Here are some statistics from The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker: On the Oklahoma City Bombing: The media bemoans the fact that 19 children were killed in the blast, yet seventy children die every day at the hands of their parents, most under the age of five. Another four million luckier children are abused in this country every year. Also: The widely established risk factors for criminality: poverty, child abuse, drug/alcohol addiction in a parent or by the child, and A SINGLE PARENT CHILDHOOD. Eighty percent of the young men in juvenille detention facilities were raised without participating fathers. Fathers are so important because they teach boys ways to be men. Without fathers, too many boys learn from the media or each other 'protest masculinity' ei: toughness and the use of force. It is not the only way to be men; but it is the only way that they know. In the words of Clarence Budinton Kelland: My father did not tell me how to live. He lived, and let me watch him do it. These are words from one of the worlds leading experts on violence. So please, single moos, stop pretending you are doing the world a favor by crappin out another future criminal and leeching off the taxpayers. Single motherhood is a social program which is a bigger failure than anything previously thought up, and one which costs the public for decades in the form of welfare, crime, and fear. And I don't give a damn if you like that or not. The statistics are there. -The Brain.

Rant Number: 24453 When: Sept. 17th 2002
What kind: Garden-variety rant Where: Watching TV yesterday

My BF and I were watching TV yesterday, and they had one of those stereotypical pregnancy testkit commercials. You know the type -- shots of women with fuzzy lighting around them... the warm, happy, syrupy cams at the end when they find out they are spawn-ladden. Whatever, eh?

Anyways, the scoop on this pregnancy test is that it's supposed to tell you four days before your period if you're repugnant. My BF had a good idea for a more realistic commercial. Presenting my interpretation of it here:

Camera focuses on young woman, standing by window. Hazy golden light streams around her.

Change scene to cardboard box held in a neatly-manicured hand, with pregnancy test brand name clearly visible.

Camera pans out to view of the gold-lit woman holding the box, a faintly wistful smile her face. Her eyes are moist with blissful unshed tears.

Pan out to include door to room. A man enters the room with a respectful, questioning expression. In his arms he cradles a clothes hanger.

The woman looks up, smiles tenderly and says "We won't need that dear!"

Couple laughs happily. Golden light intensifies and then fades to black background with pregnancy test logo.

Someday, somewhere --probably in Europe-- some corporation will actually get the guts to run that sort of commercial.

~Dandelion

Rant Number: 24461 When:
What kind: I just wanna flame Where:

I love movies. I go to a lot of them. I am SO happy to be back in Canada now where movie ratings actually make sense. A restricted movie is ONLY for those 18 or older (or able to fake it, like I did at 15). This means that you don't have abusive (in my opinion) parents bringing toddlers to ultra-violent movies! We get a rest from the yowling and fussing (even the teens are generally better-behaved here - then again I lived in NYC so I may have seen the worst of the American teens) and the little kids don't get scarred for life. I remember some idiotic parent with a young child (3 or 4 maybe) in the theater when I went to see The Cell (a good but VERY violent, twisted, disturbing movie with psychotic nightmare visual effects - hell, even I was freaked out). I can't even imagine how that kid's developing brain processed that. So, now I'm back to sanity, where R means R. Every time I've brought up this issue with Americans, they all say that they can't restrict movies like that (hence the fear of NC-17) because if parents don't bring their kids to R movies then the profits drop! But wait a minute, Canadian movie chains aren't going out of business. Sure, some people under 18 are sneaking in, but they check the tickets at the theater door, none of this buying-a-ticket-for-the-disney-flick bullshit, and if they make it in at least they're older-looking teens who are afraid to be disruptive for fear they'll get busted by the ushers! Teens have more rights here too (in Quebec, where I live, you can consent to sex and see GYNs privately at 14, and drink at 18) which I think actually makes them MORE responsible at earlier ages. Ok, I'm done for now. ~Cat

Rant Number: 24479 When: All the Time
What kind: Garden-variety rant Where: Everywhere

Hi, everyone. Yout girl JC here. Haven't had time to log on lately ... plus since I ain't no "liberrian" no more (thank God), I haven't had too many rants. I don't even have time to check the D page anymore. I miss you all.

But anyway -- lately it has just struck me that

PARENTHOOD IS THE ULTIMATE ACT OF

SELFISHNESS

NOT

"Selflessness".

The world is fucked-up and our population level is strangling the planet ... can anyone give me ONE GOOD REASON why it is a wise idea to make a DNA replicant of oneself?

No, the "Well, MAHHHHHH CHYYYYYLD is SMARTER/NICER/PRETTIER/MORE TALENTED than all of those BROWN PEOPLE'S children" is NOT a good reason ... mmmmmmmkay?

We ALL need to stop breeding, white people, brown people, yellow people, etc. Yeah, and I will say it would be fucking NICE if people in third-world countries could rub the two sticks together and "discover" birth control and abortion, or if all else fails, keeping one's dick in one's pants when one does not have food.

However, sorry, pweshus lil' Gap-wearin' suburban white sprogs are not inherently smarter than brown sprogs from Ethiopia ... it's all in how you raise them, how you develop and nurture their minds and spirits, yet instill them with a sense of boundaries and self-discipline.

This is all a moot point. THE BREEDERS ARE DESTROYING US. We are dead, folks, killed by tract housing, strip malls, running shoes, and new highways. Every new mouth to feed in the grand ol U.S of A, no matter how big the silver spoon may be in that said mouth, is another nail in our collective coffin.

And if that isn't enough ... why in HELL are people popping out DNA replicants when there are 30,000 children in Ohio alone in orphanages waiting to be adopted? Guess what? I cried when I heard that figure. I actually cried. Those poor kids. They never asked to be born, and the weird people who have the strange desire for kids to be around won't adopt them because they ain't tit-feedable bayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyybeeeeeees, or if they ARE bayyyyyyyyyyyybeees, they ain't white, OR they simply aren't DNA replicants of some dizzy twat and her equally dizzy dick of a husband.

Fuck people. Love cats.

'Bye for now. Gotta go smoke some crack in order to be able to deal with the wasteland the Breeders are creating.

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   I also saw a great sign on a construction site yesterday, meant to dissuade trespassers but a mantra that we CFers can use as a retort: "Accidents never "just happen." They are caused." I LOVE IT. It doesn't matter what the hell your intent is; it is your actions that cause things. Novel concept, these days.

Pizzette

Rant Number: 24487 When: Sept 20. 2002
What kind: I just wanna flame Where: News wire item

I saw this item on my newswire this morning and it pissed me off so much, TRENTON, New Jersey -- A duck is being treated for injuries after a brutal attack by a group of children.Police in Trenton, New Jersey, say the kids set the duck on fire and then had their pit bull attack it.< A witness called police last night.< Firefighters found the duck hiding in the bushes.< The animal was turned over to animal control officials.< Police are trying to find the children.< LITTLE FUCKERS! I HOPE YOU GET YOURS! I HAVE NEVER WANTED TO SET FIRE TO A FUCKING LITTLE BRAT SO MUCH AS I DO NOW.OF COURSE WE ALL KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THESE WASTES OF SKIN ARE CAUGHT...NOT A FUCKING THING. THEY HAVE NO SOUL AND SHOULD BE TAKEN OFF THE FUCKING PLANET. I VOLUNTEER. I AM SICK OF THE LITTLE FUCKERS GETTING AWAY WITH ANIMAL ABUSE WITH NO FUCKIING REPERCUSSIONS. I HOPE THE NEXT THING THE LITTLE BASTARDS SET ON FIRE WILL BE THE USELESS FUCKING BREEDERS WHO SPAWNED THEM.

Rant Number: 24528 When: September 21, 2002
What kind: Other Where: Here

Regarding the story about the bitch moo who was caught on video beating the crap out of her kid in a parking lot, it is already a well-known fact that nearly all child abusers are the parents. The point that everyone is missing here is that since the media and law enforcement officials had the balls to broadcast this video of the mother, attempt to hunt her down, and press charges, this will now set a precedent to all other parents to be fearful of disciplining their already out of control children which in turn will make our future a bleak one indeed............The Vicious Bitch of the South

Rant Number: 24530 When: Today
What kind: Injustice in the workplace Where: NetSlaves.com board

Here's a paste-in from Netslaves.com, an Info Technology-related board I frequent. The thread had to do with "Work vs. Slavery", and the poster of this paste-in put an accurate CF twist on it that I wanted to share.

-CF Dave

--- begin paste-in ---

... Oh, and hopefully you have a family photo on the desk, because if you're single, you have no legitimate reason to go home on time, or not to to work weekends. Kids are the "get out of work free" card, ESPECIALLY if they play soccer and you drive a vaguely rectangular truck.

(While we're on the subject, can someone explain to me why the grocery store parking lot is filled to the lights at 2:15PM on a Tuesday, and why everyone there is driving a $45,000 car? Do any of these people have jobs? If not, who is paying for these cars?)

In addition to the vacation, sick time and holidays, kids provide an unlimited supply of on-demand three hour breaks for [soccer practice|doctor appointment|dentist appointment| teacher conference|dance class]. Now if a 30-year old single guy has a dentist appointment, tough, you don't get no lunch today, and novacaine or not YOU BETTER BE BACK HERE IN ONE HOUR!! (yelled as the employee staggers out the door with a pillowcase tied around his jaw).

--- end paste-in ---

Rant Number: 24567 When: yesterday
What kind: Garden-variety rant Where: diabetes class

My husband is an insulin dependent diabetic (Type I) and has been for over 20 years (he is 33). He takes insulin four times a day. Recently, he was approved for an insulin pump, which will basically monitor his blood sugar and insulin intake and will give him a normal life span :) Anyway, our insurance is paying for about 65%, we still have to pay $2000. No huge deal. Well, last night he got home from his "diabetes class" and tells me about his Moo in his class who is on Medicaid and getting it all paid for. Why is she on Medicaid, you ask? CUZ SHE HAS A FUCKING SPROG OUT OF WEDLOCK AND DOESN'T WORK AND HAS WELFARE THAT IS PAYING FOR IT. Well that's great! Maybe I should have skipped my doctorate and just sat home shitting out shitloafs and not working and then we could have gotten the fucking pump for free. This is bullshit. I am so pissed! BTW, it is non advisable for diabetics to spawn anyway. Stupid stupid stupid

Rant Number: 24568 When: 24th September 2002
What kind: I just wanna flame Where: At work

Child abuse - there can’t be many people, cf or not, who don’t find these crimes horrendous, we all know child abuse to be mental, physical or sexual. But are these the only ways that a child can be abused? I don’t think so…what about having a child while you are living in abject poverty, is this not a terrible thing to do? Or having a child to get housing/money/handouts? Or not having paid employment? Or the fact that the parents are themselves not even adults when they have the baby? What about being ill either mentally or physically? If you have a genetic illness which could be passed on? Or doing it to keep a man? I believe all of the above should also be considered child abuse. I keep hearing about how everything is in the best interests of the child, but that is obviously far from the truth, it’s really about the people who have them and their ‘rights’.

Rant Number: 24587 When: Sept. 24 2002
What kind: Hey, did you see this? Where: USA

This week, the House will vote on sweeping federal legislation that would allow any health care entity (including hospitals, health-insurance corporations, or HMOs) to deny women access to reproductive health care services. H.R. 4691, the so-called "Abortion Non-Discrimination Act" drafted by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, would not only permit health care entities to prohibit women access to abortion services, but also deny women counseling, referral to another provider, and even medically appropriate information.

If passed into law, this legislation would discriminate against women by denying them information necessary for responsible decision-making. to send a letter to your Representative urging him/her to oppose this dangerous legislation.

Specifically, this legislation could:

Overrule a federal requirement that federally funded family-planning clinics give pregnant women information about all options, including carrying the pregnancy to term, adoption, and abortion.

Allow states to violate federal law giving low-income women access to abortion services in cases of rape, incest, or where pregnancy endangers the life of the woman.

Block states' ability to use their own state funds to cover abortion services for low-income women beyond the narrow circumstances permitted with federal dollars.

Prohibit states from requiring that health care entities participating in their Medicaid programs provide women with information about, or referrals for, abortion services.

Rant Number: 24597 When: 9/24/02
What kind: Rant on behalf of others Where: here

For rant #24596

This is what I have been saying for years. These people are nazi's. There is One Way™ to live, and any who don't adhere to it are to be shamed and flamed. Land of the Bee, Home of the Slave

I keep telling people, you have to get mad enough to get heard. We have nothing to lose, cuz they already think we are selfish and hateful, so what's the diff? Might as run with it.

America is quickly turning into a socialistic, homogenistic society in which everyone lives in a 1950's suburban dream, and children are icons that can do no wrong, and have glowing halos over their heads. Pleasantville, on a national scale, as it were. The country that made individual thought socially acceptable has become like the very enemies we fought in the Cold War, except we don't use guns and tanks to keep our people in line. We use TV, advertising, and lots of crying baybees to do the job.

We have to let our legislators know that there are people in the country over 18. The Children™ aren't the ones keeping them in office. Hint. Hint.

Peace!

Rant Number: 24621 When: September 25, 2002
What kind: I just wanna flame Where: In the dorm

I'm in college living in the dorms. I just transferred in the a four year school, so it's my first time living in the dorms. My roommate (R) wasn't here except for leaving some things for the first few days, but today she was back again, and I finally worked up the courage to talk to her about her tv.

Background: For whatever reason, tv monitors make a high pitched noise that very few people can hear AFAIK, but I can hear it, and it gives me horrible headaches to be around it even for a short time. I don't know why, I think it might just be a sensitivity to high pitched sounds, because there are other sounds that get to me.

I hadn't thought it would be a problem, because no one else in the suite has a tv. When I asked her if she could put the tv in the common area for the suite, and explained that I have this problem with tvs she said that she couldn't, and what's more she proceeded to turn the tv on right then. I asked her if she could please turn it off, and she said no. I asked again, and said that it was really hurting me. She said no, she wouldn't, and that she'd have to talk to the RA. I told her that I was trying to be nice, trying to find some kind of solution, like her puting the tv in the other room where maybe I wouldn't be affected by it, or her watching tv when I'm not there. None of these were acceptable, and she left the tv on and went down to talk to the RA on duty. The RA comes back with her, and at this point my head is killing me, and wshe still won't turn off the tv. The RA asks isn't there any way we can fix this. I explained that I just can't deal with the noise it makes and we come to the agreement that I'll go out and sit in the lounge by the elevators because R is only going to be here for a few minutes, a half an hour at most.

I go out, do all the homework I could out there, read my book. Over an hour after I'd started sitting out there, the RA walks by and asks if things are better, and I tell her that R still hasn't left. We go in, and it turns out that R isn't watching tv anymore (but apparently couldn't be bothered to tell me so I could come back into my own room). R's position is that there wasn't anything saying she couldn't have her tv, she has every right to have it, and if I have a problem with it, then that's my problem, and she doesn't have to do anything about it.

I'm wondering whatever happened to common courtesy. I admit that having a problem with a tv is strange, but it's not really any different from if I were allergic to her favorite air freshener. Every option I offered so she wouldn't be cut off from her tv shows was rejected. When it was suggested that she move and there are other suites in the building that have space, she got upset and asked why she should move. As far as I can tell this is all something on her part to try to get the room to herself because when she found out that the sixth person didn't move in here and someone in this suite is alone in her room, she said that she wished she had her own room and shot me a nasty look. Now it seems like she's trying to do whatever she can to run me out of the room. I even heard her talking on the phone to someone saying that she shouldn't have to move, I should have to. I wish I could move away from her, but I can't. I got this room because I need extra space to get around, and the office of disabilities put me in it specifically because of that. There's noplace else I could move to now that has the same accommodations that this room/suite has.

I'm sorry I took up so much space, but I didn't know where else I could rant about this, and I can't believe how this person must have been raised, that someone can say to her, "This causes me pain." so she goes right away to do it. If this is the fyooture I want no part of it.

Rant Number: 24641  When:
What kind: Not a rant -- a rave! Where: TV Commercial

Anyone else here love the ad for RE/MAX real estate with all the kitty cats? The narrator talks about needing a bigger home, and all these dozens of kitties run through a big house following a RE/MAX balloon. I LOVE this commericial because 1. Its sprog-free, and 2. I love cats!! All you CF kitty lovers look out for this ad!

Rant Number: 24644 When: sept 26.2002
What kind: Garden-variety rant Where: home

After reading rants for a couple of days, I realize that most ranters don't really hate children, but, like me, hate irresponsible parents. Many of us hate our OWN irresponsible parents. At least one site on the circle is written by a man who was a farm slave for his selfish, "I gave you life, so you owe me" parent. In my case, my stupid, irresposible slut of a mother gave birth to four more kids after me. She said, "I gave you life, so clean up my living room, clean up my dining room, babysit your siblings free for me, cook for them and me, wash their dishes and my dishes, because I am your grand and glorious mother, I gave you life so you OWE me. Society says the child OWES the parent. It should be just the other way around. The PARENT OWES THE CHILD, not the other way around. The parent screwed, and popped out a baby, and caused that child to need housing, food, medical care, education, etc. The parent OWES the child all these things FREE. He/she has no right to demand ANYTHING back from the child in the form of money or labor. The law should demand that irresponsible breeders carry the burden for the results of their own intercourse. They should not be allowed to force any part of that burden off onto society, other citizens, or especially, off onto the children they force into the world. The parent should have to do all the work that they incurred when they created a family. They should not be allowed to force their children to do any part of it, except, perhaps to clean up after himself. The parent who used the child for a slave on the farm was a CHILD ABUSER, and it is time society said that. Society should STOP TELLING PARENTS THAT THEY DESERVE SLAVES. Parents, clean out your own damn, garage, take care of your own kids, dont expect the older kids to help you with it. Shovel your own snow, mow your own damn yard, wash your own dishes. And if you can't support kids without going on welfare, DON'T HAVE KIDS!!

Rant Number: 24648 When: September 27, 2002
What kind: Rant on behalf of others Where: Krogers grocery store

There's a rave at the bottom of this. Last night while getting my weekly groceries, I found myself snuck in a supermarket line behind annoying breeder moo and brat. After the usual breeder cooing and baby talk to the bratlet, moo does an about face and rips into the poor cashier for not having any more free stickers to give bratlet. Apparently the groceries and common courtesy aren't remotely as important as Bratley getting an "I've been Krogering" sticker. In fact, this sticker seems becomes the most important thing in the world to moo. It seems as if the glue on this sticker has some sort of magical medicinal effect and Bratley will die if it doesn't get this sticker. In short, moo throws a hissy fit and a half, because she can't get a quarter size free sticker for her brat. She finally saunters off to the courtesy booth (where I hope they did not have any stickers either) in a huff, proclaiming that the teenage cashier needs to "do her job better." Jokingly I apologized to the cashier on behalf of rest of the human race which was justly embarassed by that member of our species. The cashier replied that she saw behavior like that all the time and it only confirmed her desire never to have any kids of her own. Good for the cashier, not even out of the local crappy public high school and she has enough sense to not want brats.