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Are you British?
 


Does your passport say British Citizen on it?



If you don't remember offhand about all or some of the make up of your passport, you might think that would be something normal, to state your citizenship on your passport.


Wait though. Does the passport state your nationality?



If the passport declares you are a British Citizen, it does not also state your nationality.


Passports, to my knowledge, state that the holder is a British Citizen in the Nationality declaration section.


There is no section for declaration of citizenship.


There is usually, I believe, no normal declaration of nationality at all in the passport of most British Nationals.



I believe most British passports are like this.


There is no space allocated for a specific declaration of citizenship on the passports, though such a declaration is what we have in the nationality declaration space, and is all that we have. There is no declaration of nationality thus at all in the passports, for most if not all British nationals. There is a shunning of the notion of nationality and also of what citizenship is.


I think that most people holding passports which state British Citizen in the Nationality declaration section are likely to be aware of this.


 
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An experience I have had.


When I complained of an error on the printing of my new passport to a vice-consul in a British Embassy abroad a few years ago I was told that British passports are like this, that British Nationals are declared as British Citizens in the specific Nationality declaration.


I asked the vice-consul to sign a short note saying that I had taken issue with the details on my new passport, as I believed there to be an error. I thought an abnormal mistake had been made on my new passport.


I put my request to the vice-consul because she assured me that there was no error made on my passport after she checked it. It took quite some arguing to have the vice-consul specifically state or agree the issue I had about the Nationality declaration, she repeating for a while at first simply that there was no error in my passport.


The vice-consul who issued my passport to me told me that I was the first person to her knowledge to complain about the blaring issue I describe here. I asked if she meant in respect of passports issued at the Embassy where she worked, which I imagine would be a relatively small number, or generally, including at the passport issuing offices in the United Kingdom. She replied that she meant anywhere. I imagine though there are many complaints made to passport issuing bodies of the U.K. I am guessing fully but it seems to me it must be so.


After some time the vice-consul did agree to sign a short note for me which I wished to produce to the passport authority when back in the U.K. which would prove that I had complained to a passport issuing department of the Government about the Nationality section of my passport and had been informed that there was no error.


On first receiving my new passport, I envisaged myself being stuck at a border control at the edge of a country in far Eastern Europe, or in Iraq. Or The Azores, or Eire, it doesn't matter but in that some countries would have many less British visitors. and, there, inexperienced border control officers may believe a passport to be a fake. Or may disregard anyway a passport which does not state the nationality of the holder on it. I wonder if these scenarios have happened. I presume, only guessing fully, that they have, and I naturally add 'of course' to my simple conjecture. Of course it is extremely likely that my hypothetical situations have occurred in real life I believe.


Although I do not hold old passports of mine nor can I remember what was stated in the Nationality category in my past passports, I found two older passports of each of my parents, one issued in the 1980s and one issued in the 1990s. These also have British Citizen declared under the Nationality category.





                                 



How long has this ridiculous cirumstance been with us?


I have, over time, asked to examine the passports of around a hundred persons, all British nationals, within the last few years. They all without exception stated that the holder was a British Citizen in the Nationality category, without giving any individual's nationality on any passports.


This has to change.




 

The British Government or others may claim that, in the U.K. a citizen is the same thing as a national.

This is not true elsewhere in the world. We cannot define these terms anew as if the rest of the world did not exist.

If this even is or could be claimed to be true, there still of course is no point in saying that someone's nationality is their citizenship of the same country. But this has been done to very many people.

To say citizenship is the same as nationality is different from saying citizenship is nationality.

Citizenship is not nationality.

There are foreign nationals who aren't British but are British citizens.

 Nationality does not mean citizenship.

There is British nationality. Even the passports which we do have have the suggestion of it; just this - as they then tell us something else. 

Why include different terms if they are deemed to mean the same thing? Why in doing this call into question very meaning of both and all else that that brings on?

Wikipedia Encyclopedia states that the term "British National" is undefined by statute. Although in this country, this means probably that the Government can't deal with it until it is defined by statue, we shouldn't have to rely on a statute for the proper life of a term in our lives.

Soon, anyway, is the time for definition by statute.

I am terribly embarrassed, and exist by hiding my identity in a huge and uncontrollable way when I travel abroad. It hurts my head.

Please say how you feel also, if you like.





Don't let us be the laughing stock of the world in this issue for much longer.
 

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