Remove the murder and what is left are the inconsistencies of what Latoya and the officers allege. Next charge aggravated robbery. There is no consistency about what he does. There is no denial that he did not robbed them of anything, possibility the black gun is not functional.
T\Cunningham P96\first trial Latoya: 23Q He (Shaun) still has the black gun, correct" A. Yes Q You don't know whether --it looks real, but you don't know whether it's a real gun or works or not, right? A. no
Did both guys have gloves?
T\Direct Windham\p44 Latoya 45 10 Q Did both of them have on a glove--one glove or two gloves or-- 12A I think both of them had on two gloves.
T\Cross by Easterling \p167 Latoya: 2Q Now, when you said the second person, Windeon Sanders, the big fellow that came in here -- that at some point during this he had on the big, bulky garden gloves, you called them, right? 7A Yes.
T\Cross by Easterling \p168 Latoya: 1 Now, Windeon, the big fellow-- he had on these big, bulky gloves, didn’t he? 4A I don’t remember what kind-- I remember it-- it looked like garden gloves, but I don’t remember if both of them had it on or one of them or did they have one. I don’t remember that. 9Q You know now they were found at your gate in the back yard, right? 13A Yes --because you just said it.
T\Cross by Easterling \p170 Latoya: 13 You don’t know whether he had on a glove on his left hand or his right hand or no gloves at all? 16A I know that they had some gloves. I don’t know if both of them had on it or if one of them had it on or if they had it one each one of their hands. I don’t know.
Latoya testifies that she does not see them switch the guns, she doesn’t see them standing outside the room, so how can she be sure that it was the first guy. When they walk back into the room the switch has taken place.
T\Windham p38\first trial Latoya:3Q Did either of these men have anything on their hands? 5A They had some gloves on. 6QOkay. Let me ask you about the first man. Did he have gloves on? 8A Yes. 9Q Did he have gloves on both hands? 10A. Yes.
If he dumped the purse, what happened to the billfold?
T\Cross by Easterling \p159 Latoya: 16Q what color was your purse--your mom’s purse that night? 18A I don’t remember. 19Q Was it in the bedroom somewhere? 20A Yes. She had it with her. P160 1Q Do you remember what color it was? 2A No. 3Q Did the billfold come out of the purse? 4A Yes. It was inside the purse. 6Q Do you remember if anybody looked in the billfold to see if it had any money? 8A I don’t remember.
T\Direct by Windham\p82 Latoya: 22Q Now, did your mother have a purse with her that night? 24A Yes. 25Q and where was her l purse, if you recall? P83 1A It was -- I think it was on the bed. Was there anything ever done with your mother’s purse? 4A Yes. 6A The first guy got her purse and emptied it out on the floor.
T\Cross by Easterling \p159 Latoya: 23Q And you remember it getting dumped out somewhere? 25A Yes. P1603Q Did the billfold come out of the purse? 4A Yes. It was inside the purse.
T\Direct by Klien\p94 Hanley: 6QNow, how come --for example, these other pictures that are showing the complainant laying on the bed --how come you can’t see that purse? 10A I believe it was underneath one of the pillows on the bed. 12Q Was it also partially underneath the complainant? 14A Yes.
T\Direct by Windham\p84 Latoya: 5A He was mad because there wasn’t anything in the there. I think there was thirty something dollars in there. 12A I think that he threw--he just threw the purse down that he’d emptied. He just threw it down. 15Q Did he say anything to your mother as he threw it down? 17A I don’t remember.
T\Direct by Windham\p84 Latoya: 10Q And how did --did he say or do anything to express that anger? 12A I think he threw -- he just threw the purse down that he’d emptied. He just threw it down. 15Q And did he say anything to your mother as he threw it down? 17A I don’t remember.
T\Redirect by Windham \p222 Latoya: 25Q Even the first man told your mother p223 1 he wasn’t happy about not finding anything, not getting anything out of this, didn’t he? 9A Yes.
T\Cross\p161 by Easterling Latoya: 18Q Is that your mom’s or is that yours or somebody else’s ? 20 Do you know? 21A I think it’s hers. It’s not the one that she had.
T\Windham p.47\first trial Latoya: 13Q And where was her purse? A. I think it was on the floor or on the bed. Q. Did she put it on the bed do you remember when y'all came home? 17A No.
What did Shaun do regarding the briefcase? Was there any time when Shaun left the room other than the (initial) meeting outside the door? What did Shaun do regarding the knife?
T\Direct by Windham\p85 Latoya: 15 Q. Was that briefcase sitting there open, with 16 stuff strewn all around like that, when 17 you-all first came back home that night? 18 A. No. 19 Q. How did it get that way? 20 A. He brought it to my mother and told her to 21 open it. 22 And she told him that she couldn't 23 open it because she didn't know the 24 combination to it. 25And he gave her a knife to open it p86 8Q At what point in time did all that happen?10A I don’t remember exactly when it happened.
T\Direct Windham\p87 Latoya: 13 I understood you to say, when you first -- 14 when that first guy first came in your room, 15 he was in there the whole time until he 16 stepped out here, by the hallway 17 (indicating} 18 A . 19 Q. --with the second guy. 20A. Yes. 21 Q. Then he came back in. P86 22Q Was there any time when this first guy ever left the room, you know, other than the time he went out here to have the conversation by your doorway with the second guy (indicating)? Do you remember? 3A No, I don’t remember.
T\Direct Windham\p87 Latoya 4Q Where did he get the brief case from, if you remember? 6A He had to leave out to go get it--because he brought it back into the room. 21 Q So, did you ever see him he leave-- the first guy leave the room and then come back with this briefcase? 24A I think so. 25Q Do you remember at what point in time that p88 1 happened, Latoya? 2A. No, I don’t remember.
T\Direct Windham\p88 Latoya: 3 Q. That briefcase wasn't in your room? 4A. No, it wasn’t in there. 5 They had to bring it in. He had to 6 bring it in there. 7Q. But you don't remember seeing him do that? 8A. No. 9Q. Okay. You notice this knife laying on the 10 floor here in State's Exhibit No.15, the 11 knife laying near the briefcase 12 (indicating)? ~ 13 Was that knife in your room? 14A. No. 15 He brought the knife in there so 16 she can open the briefcase with it. 17Q. Again, when you say "he," you're talking 18 about -- 19 A. The first guy. 20Q. --the first guy? 21 Did you see him do that? 22A. I seen him give the knife to her and the 23 briefcase to her. 24Q. Did you see where he got the knife from? 25A. No.
T\Cross by Easterling \p183 Latoya: 4 I said that -- I said the other dude, the second dude -- he was already out there. And then the first one had to go out there to get the briefcase and to bring it back in. That’s what I said. 12A And then I said that I don’t think he left out of here after that until the end.
T\Direct Windham\p89 Latoya: 89 9A She opened it. And he got it, and he--I think he dumped it on the floor or something. 12Q Did he search through what was in the briefcase? 14A yes. 15QWhat was he saying or doing at that time? A. I don’t remember what he was saying, but I know he was going through it. And he didn’t find anything in there.
T\Windham p 48 & 49\first trial Latoya: 48. 4A He (Shaun) got a briefcase that I think he got out of the other room and he gave it to her... P49 3Q How did that knife get there? 6Q Did one of these men bring it into your room? 7A Yes. 8Q Do you know which one? 9A I think the first one. 10Q So at some point in time he left your room and went to other parts of the house? 12A Yes. 13Q Other than just out in the hallway by your doorway? 15A. Yes. 16Q Do you remember seeing that man or the other man bringing that briefcase into your room? 19A I remember them giving it to my mom and telling her and she said she couldn't open it.
Where was the gun as Shaun was looking under the bed?
T\Direct Windham\p52 Latoya: 13Q What was he-- did he still have the gun in his hand looking under the bed? 16A Yes. He was holding it on top while he was looking up under the bed, he was holding the gun--21A on the top of the bed.
T\Direct Windham\p53 Latoya: 3 Does he have the gun up, like, towards you-all? 5A I don’t remember. I know it was--either he was-he was holding the gun, holding his hand up on the bed.
What her statement is depends on how he phrased the question. The first time he asks what did he say the answer changes once Windham mentions shooting. What did he say, exactly while he is looking under the bed?
Did he say anything at the point of looking under the bed?
T\Direct Windham\p53 Latoya: 9Q Did he say anything to you-all while he was looking under the bed? 11A Yes. 12Q What did he say? 13A He told us not to move. 14Q Did he say anything about shooting?
T\Direct Windham\p54 Latoya 3Q What did he say to you? 4A He said that if we move he’ll shoot.
T\Redirect by Windham\p206 Latoya: 7Q Did he threaten to shoot her? 8A He said that if she moved that he’ll pull the trigger.
T\Windham P51\first trial Latoya: 13A He (Shaun) was looking under the bed and he had the gun sitting on top of the bed and he was looking under the bed and he told her not to move. 24Q Is he pointing the gun at y'all as he's looking under the bed? P52 A. Yes Q. Is he saying anything to y'all? A. He said, "Don't move because all I got to do is pull the trigger." 5Q He's holding the black gun at that time, is that correct? A. Yes. 8Q You said that at some point in time the second man who had gone back in was moving things round in the house, at some point in time he came back in to the room . Was that after the first man had looked under the bed, if you remember? A. I don't remember.
Why did they lay across the bed?
T\Cross by Easterling \p165 Latoya: 4Q Did he say, "Lay down face down on the bed" or just "Lay on the bed"? 6AI don’t remember if he said, "Lay down" or, "Lay face down." P166 6Q And I believe you said -- is this correct? --"You need to lay down and stay there until your daddy comes back." 9A Yes.
T\Redirect by Windham\p210 Latoya: 12 How were you told to lay down? 20A I think he said, "Lay down." He told us to lay down. I don’t know if he told us to lay on our stomachs.
T\Direct Windham\p94 Latoya: p93 24Q At this point in time, is the light on in the room? 1A No. They had cut the light off, but the closet light was on. 4Q So, at some point in time, one of them turned the light off? 6A The first guy cut the light off -- because he kept asking where my daddy was. And my mom told him he was gone out of town. He told us to lie down because we was going to stay there until he came back.
T\Cross by Easterling\p166 Latoya: 6Q And I believe you said -- is this correct? -- "You need to lay down and stay there until your daddy comes back." 9A Yes
T\Windham P61\first trial Latoya: 14Q Why did you --Why were you laying on your stomach? 16A. Because the first person told us to do it. 23Q And how long was it after y'all laid down was it that you heard the shot? A. About five minutes.
Tape of Latoya Hill
July 13, 1997
3:25 a.m.
Kitchen of house; Detective M.F. Waters3rd. Other man (Windeon) has the chrome gun; he is trying to get it off safety. He told the children to lay down on the bed "face down".
Did this case involve dope?
T\Direct Windham\p36 Latoya: 13 Q. Okay. Did he say anything about dope or 14 drugs? 15 A.No, I don't think so. 16Q. You don’t recall that? 17A. No.
T\Cross by Easterling \p158 see130 Latoya: 2Q Isn’t it true you testified in the previous trial--Page 95: "Okay. They started demanding; and they’re asking, Where’s the dope? Right" And you said, "I’m not sure." And, then, today you’re saying "No." So, which one is it? 10A I don’t remember them asking for it. 11 Q You’re not sure? 12 No. I don’t remember. 21Q So, it is possible they did ask for dope and money and you just don’t remember it? 23A yes.
T\Cross by Easterling\p43 Waters: P44 but you remember what the demands were, that were told you, by the two boys that were in the house, what they were demanding. You remember that--don’t you? --what Miss Hill was telling you. 11A. Specific to what she was saying? 12Q Yes 13A Yes. 14QAnd one of those demands that she was telling you was dope. 16A Correct. 17QAnd, so this is when it’s fresh. 20 Miss Hill was telling you one of the demands was for dope; correct? 22 Correct.
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