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ELGIN 18W8 SHIPS / WATCHES, WRIST (WATERTIGHT)

On January 15, 1947 the U.S. Navy released a new divers wristwatch Military Specification:   18W8 (SHIPS)  / WATCHES, WRIST (WATERTIGHT), which superseded the 18W8 (INT) specification from December 1, 1944. Elgin was the sole manufacturer of watches meeting this new specification, but didn't do so for several years after its release. Primarily issued in the early 1950s to U.S. Navy Underwater Demolition teams, when the teams were conducting vital experimentation with new equipment such as underwater breathing apparatus, wet and dry suits, and developing new delivery methods aboard submarines, such as the USS Perch.

"US Navy frogmen bobbing up in the water off the Virgin Islands." ... mid-1955.

The specification called for a metal dial, finished in a durable, lusterless black and be graduated to minutes. Each fifth minute is indicated by a dot approximately 1/32 inch in diameter, except figure 12, which displays two dots of like material and size directly above the figure 12. Each tenth minute is marked in plain, arabic figures, except for the 60, which is indicated by the 2 dots, one above the other. The dial is also marked ELGIN / USN BUSHIPS in glossy black (difficult to read and photograph due to the black on black printing). The minute and hour hands are of the skeleton type and filled with luminous radioactive material; the second hand is a sweep type and white, except for 3/16 of the tip end, which is treated with luminous material.

Unlike its predecessor, the case and screw down casebacks of each watch were required to be made of stainless steel. To insure the watch remain watertight the case is constructed with a screw cap "on the pipe"  which encloses the crown and winding arbor. The screw cap is provided with a Koroseal gasket to insure a water tight seal around the crown and winding arbor when the cap is screwed into place. The cap is attatched to the case by flexible links and a second Koroseal gasket is found in back of the case, to form a watertight joint when the caseback is screwed into place.

The specification required the following test to determine the watches' watertight capabilities:

"F-2b. Watertight test. - Each of the 5 watches selected as specified in paragraph -2a(3) shall be suspended in a beaker of water placed in a vacuum chamber evacuated to 3.5 inches of mercury for a period of 3 minutes."

A fellow watch collector (Lex of MWR) has provided the following information in regard to a possible "real-world" answer to the test above:

3.5in of mercury is approximately 0.1ATM - Assuming that seals work as well for positive or negative pressure:

Since the test is verifying that the seals can withstand a pressure differential of about 10x (1ATM inside the watch vs 0.1ATM outside), we can make a conclusion that the watch would also be able to withstand being immersed to 10 x 1 ATM = 10ATM = 100 meters = 300 ft depth.

 

The cystal is tempered glass, with a metalized rim, which is soldered to the bezel of the case to insure a watertight seal.

The movement was required to run not less than 30 hours on one winding, be stem-winding and setting, with movements no larger than 6/0 nor smaller than 8/0. In addition the movement was required to have not less than 15 jewels and a daily accuracy rate of -/+ 30 seconds. Elgin produced the watch with the 17 jewel Grade 647 movement, which met all requirements of the new specification.

Two variations of caseback markings are found on the Elgin "Canteen" - either engraved: USN BUSHIPS or USN xxxC (the xxx = unique serial number). Both are correct, and no discernable pattern or trend has been discovered based upon serial numbers of the movments.

 

Photos of movement, BUSHIPS caseback, and soldered crystal kindly provided by Ian P. of MWR - they remain his property and are used here with permission.



U.S. Navy Frogmen in Action

"Old hands at St. Thomas gleefully tell of a new UDT trainee who was challenged by a destroyer sailor. The future frogman was crouched on the beach, trying to repair some compressed-air tanks. He was clad in typical working attire: swimming trunks, canvas shoes and GI pistol belt with a sheath knife hanging from it.

"Say, Bud," the destoyer man asked. "Are you in the Navy?"

"Naw" , said the other without hesitation. "I'm in the UDT."

"UDT divers aboard the Captain's Gig, on advanced training exercise" ... mid-1955. 

Close-up of the Elgin "canteen" dive watches worn by the divers above:

 

"In the mid-1950s on the base of Saint Thomas in the Virgin Islands, Admiral Frank G. Fahrlon, commander of the Atlantic Fleet, inspects several teams of UDT-22 during a training exercise. In the instance, the men have donned their best UDT shorts, their immaculate Coral Shoes, a mask, fins (short type) and their life jackets."

Close-ups of Elgin "canteen" dive watches worn by the UDT personel above:

 

"Lt.(jg.) John Falter, underwater, wearing a rubber suit and a Scott compressed-air lung." ... mid-1955.

"Frogmen using various phones can talk on surface, underwater, or underwater-to-surface." ... mid-1955.

"UDT underwater-breathing equipment: Pirelli model (above) feeds swimmer pure oxygen, which is used over and over, thus releasing no bubbles, helping avoid detection." ... mid-1955.

"A UDT takes a swig of brandy and enjoys a cigarette following immersion in the freezing waters off Korea. Although he is wearing a dry suit, the intense cold will have made his tasks more difficult as he struggles against fatigue."

 

"Captain's Gig" and "Inspection"  images kindly provide by Ian P. of MWR - they remain his property and are used here with permission.



UDT Diving Equipment

The UDT diver above is wearing the Elgin 18W8 SHIPS dive watch, and is also wearing the US Navy BUSHIPS MK 1 MOD 0 wrist compass manufatured by the John E. Hand & Sons Company.

The above UDT diver is also wearing the Elgin 18W8 SHIPS watch, the MK 1 MOD 0 wrist compass (both worn on the left wrist), and the GAGE, DEPTH, WRIST - Specification No. MIL-G-15214A (right wrist).

Compass and Gage images kindly provided by James D. - they remain his property and are used here with permission.



 U.S. NAVY DIVING MANUAL

NAVSHIPS 250-538 / SEPTEMBER 1958

The equipment reviewed above, the Elgin 18W8 SHIPS / WATCHES, WRIST (WATERTIGHT), the BUSHIPS Mk 1 Mod O Wrist Compass, and the GAGE, DEPTH, WRIST (Specification MIL-G-15214A) were still in use in September 1958. These pieces of equipment are listed and / or pictured in the Sept 1958 US NAVY DIVING MANUAL:

Closer view of the DEPTH GAGE section:

The next section is information regarding the current Wrist Watch:

This watch, while not listed as the Elgin, is shown throughout the manual as the watch in issue and matches the description given:

I am fairly certain the new watch being developed and tested is the Bulova MIL-SHIPS-W-2181 (the precursor to the Tornek-Rayville TR-900 / MIL-W-22176A). The Bulova ultimately failed testing:

"Abstract:
Three preproduction samples of a BULOVA submersible wrist watch manufactured under BuShips contract in accordance with MIL-Ships-W-2181 are evaluated. Watertightness, readability-in-darkness and various subjective tests are reported. The specified test depth is 392 feet (175 psi), held for one hour. The watch face includes a moisture color- indicator and also a control color patch and change in color has been used as an acceptance criteria for watertightness. Two of the three watches indicated moisture, one during testing and the other several days after testing. No water or moisture was noted in the case. Readability of the watch in darkness, underwater, was satisfactory with the exception of the second hand which was too thin to be seen. Several physical improvements are recommended as a consequence of subjective evaluation. The watches are not recommended for acceptance in that the specified watertightness test has not been met. (Author)"

More information and images to come in regard to the MIL-SHIPS-W-2181 BULOVA wrist watch..

Finally the BUSHIPS MK 1 MOD O wrist compass is reviewed:




UDT-13 / WESTPAC 1969

The following images were found in the UDT-13 cruise book from 1969. The UDT member at the bottom / center of the photo is wearing a Elgin dive watch - noted by the overly large crown / cap. In addition to the photo evidence a retired Seal / UDT Cmdr. has reported that the Elgin remained in use into the early 1970s.

 




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