The Bible Is Libertarian

Answering Objections to Christian Universalism by Lela Kelly

Answering Objections to Christian Universalism from

Islamists, Conventional Christians, and Eastern Religions

1. Islamists' main objections to Christianity
- The original Bible is lost and present Bibles are misinterpreted
- Only the Quran is proven true and infallible
- Only the Creator is God
- Jesus was not God and was not born of a virgin
- Mohammed was the greatest prophet
- Only Islam is the true religion

2. Conventional Christians' Main Objections to Christian Universalist claims
- Jesus is God
- The Bible is infallible
- The Catholic Church is the proper successor to Jesus
- The Pope is infallible
- Only believers in Jesus are saved; whoever does not believe will suffer in Hell forever
- Whoever dies without confessing mortal sins to a priest will suffer in Hell forever
- The end of the world is near

3. Eastern Religions' main objections to Bible claims
- There is no God; Jesus was not God and was not born of a virgin
- Heaven is attained only after many lifetimes of spiritual development

Answers to Objections

1. Islamists' main objections to Christianity
- The original Bible is lost and present Bibles are misinterpreted
The original Bible was lost, but much of it has been found and pieced together and interpreted much better since the Quran was written. Since the Quran says the Bible was the word of God, followers of the Quran should also heed the Bible, when it is properly interpreted.

- Only the Quran is proven true and infallible
If the Bible was the word of God, but later misinterpreted, it's possible that errant humans have misinterpreted the Quran as well. The Bible refers to governments that act beastly, by killing or harming the common people, as the Beast. Most, if not all, governments still act beastly, but the Bible says man's governments will become Godly governments. Many governments have tried to be Godly governments in the past 500 years, but have been largely overcome by Satan. However, the Bible predicted that Satan and the Beast would ultimately be destroyed or purged.

- Only the Creator is God
Yes, but Christians and the Bible have several meanings for "God".

- Jesus was not God and was not born of a virgin
 It's true that Jesus was not God the Father and Islamists have correctly pointed out that the Bible does not clearly say that Jesus is or was God the Father. If he were, then there would not be a trinity, although the Bible also does not clearly say there is a trinity either. The idea of a trinity, if it is not stated in the Bible, may have come from an earlier pagan tradition and Jesus did warn people to follow God's word and not the traditions of men. The Catholic Church, founded 300 years after the time of Jesus, found it convenient to use ideas that pagans were familiar with to explain Christian doctrine to them.
 The Bible does speak of God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. What this seems to have meant is that the Son is in the image of the Father, because he obeyed the Father's commandments to love God and our fellow human beings. So Jesus was considered to be a reflection or example of the Father and all should or will follow that example. The Holy Spirit is the spirit, memory, or inspiration of Jesus' example. The Quran does say that Jesus was the savior, as prophesied in the Bible, so it seems to agree that he was an example of God's love for all to follow.
 The Bible predicted that the savior would be born of a virgin. The Quran seems to say that Jesus' mother was not a virgin. We should admit that it's possible for God to do anything, so God could have created Jesus from a virgin and the Quran may be fallible, if the Bible was fallible. However, there is evidence in the Bible that Jesus was born on or about September 11, so the prophets may have meant that he would be born in the sign of the virgin, which is Virgo.

- Mohammed was the greatest prophet
 If it's true, there should be a list of accurate and inaccurate prophecies that he made that are known to have come true and it should be a longer list than that of any other prophet. Or, it may be that the meaning of "prophet" was different from what is now meant. Is it possible that the Quran meant he was the greatest prophet among the descendants of Ishmael or of Arabia etc? Or is it possible that prophet originally meant something like redactor? Or does "greatest prophet" mean that he will have the largest following?

- Only Islam is the true religion
 If belief in the Quran were infallible, that could be true. But the Quran says the Bible was God's word too, so Islamists should follow the Bible as well. The Bible wasn't translated properly at the time of Muhammed, but it seems to have more reliable translations now.

2. Christians' main objections to Universalist claims
- Jesus is God
 It seems Jesus never said he was God the Father. Jesus is the perfect Son of God, our example to follow. Son of God, means in the image of the Father. Since no one has seen the Father, because He is Love, the image and likeness of God must mean Jesus' character was all-loving, like that of the Father. That is the example we are to follow.

- The Bible is infallible
 God's word of love for God and for fellow human beings is infallible and God seeks to write His Bible, or word, in our hearts and minds. The story of Jesus is His example to guide us or for us to follow. The physical Bible can be and has been misinterpreted or written somewhat inaccurately, which is why there are some versions that disagree with other versions, but the spirit of the Bible, or God's original meaning for the Bible, should be infallible.

- The Catholic Church is the proper successor to Jesus; the Pope is infallible on religion
 If the Pope were infallible and can change the law however he sees fit, he must not love everyone; otherwise, it seems that the Pope would change the law so that no one can go to Hell forever, but only go to Hell long enough to be cleansed of sin. There was no one who was called Pope until several centuries after Jesus. Before the first Pope, all of the bishops were of equal rank. It's unlikely that Jesus referred to Peter as the rock upon which to build his Church, because it was Jesus himself who was otherwise called the Rock. Jesus did not teach the apostles to make decisions by majority rule, but by unanimity, as demonstrated in Acts 15. He also told them at Matthew 20: 25-28 not to use beastly methods of the world's princes, but majority rule is a beastly method, called "Might makes right". God does not use His Might to rule us, but gives us free will and teaches us to use Love and Unity, not Might in our relationships. The Jesuits know about this.

- Only believers in Jesus are saved; whoever does not believe will suffer in Hell forever
 Jesus said calling on his name, or saying Lord, Lord, does not save anyone, but doing his commandments of loving everyone is what saves us. No one will suffer in Hell forever, because Hell, sin, death etc will be destroyed or purged in the Lake of Fire. The word "forever" referring to Hell was added to the Bible in the 600s by order of emperor Julian. Forever refers only to God. Jesus went to Hell to save all who were then in Hell. Hell meant death.

- Whoever dies without confessing mortal sins to a priest will suffer in Hell forever
 The Bible doesn't say anything about mortal and venial sins. If the Pope could define which sins were mortal, then he could have said that there are no mortal sins. Then no one would need to fear going to Hell forever. But religious leaders, like emperor Constantine, who founded the Catholic Church, or especially emperor Julian 300 years later, obviously wanted to put the fear of God, instead of the Love of God, into their followers, so the latter would obey them. God does not want to rule us by Fear, but by Love. Man, i.e. beastly man, wants to rule by Fear. Beastly man wants to get revenge on those who do not accept their domination, which is why he wants to believe in eternal hell. God uses pain not for revenge, but for helping show the way to Love for all.

- The end of the world is near
 The Bible actually said the end of the Age was near, not the end of the World. It said it would be the end of the Age of Israel and the beginning of the Age of the Gentiles. The end of the Age of the Gentiles may be near now, but the end of the Age of Israel, which Jesus said would come within one generation, occurred in 70 AD, when Rome destroyed Jerusalem and killed many of its people, as described by Josephus.

3. Eastern Religions' main objections to Bible claims
- There is no God; Jesus was not God and was not born of a virgin
 It's true that the Creator is not a human being and does not have a human shape or any other shape. The Bible says no one has seen God. God is Love, the source of all caring, consciousness and power. Jesus is the "Son" of God, which means the person who best displayed God's Love for all. Probably all sacred books use symbolism to explain their ideals. That is the case with much of the Bible.
 It cannot be said that a virgin cannot bear a child, because virgins can be implanted with a fertilized human ovum and bear a child, without sexual intercourse etc. It's also possible, however, that the Bible was referring to the birth of the savior during the sign of the Virgin, since there's evidence that Jesus was born on or near September 11, the sign of Virgo, which means Virgin.

- Heaven is attained only after many lifetimes of spiritual development
 The Bible seems to deny that humans can reincarnate, once they die. Whether the Bible is wrong about that, or whether it's been misinterpreted, may be hard to determine. However, there's good evidence that spirits are capable of possessing or obsessing mortals. So, when a mortal seems to remember a past life, it may be that the memories of a spirit who lived that former life are what are perceived or conceived by the mortal. Since mortals are capable of paranormal perception of spirits, perception of their memories is also possible. The belief in reincarnation seems to have produced the caste system in India, which has given great advantages to the high castes and disadvantages to low castes. Naturally, those who have such advantages want everyone to believe they deserve them. Reincarnation seems to give people little incentive to improve their societies.
 There is good evidence that the belief in reincarnation comes from early human history, when the sky was much more electrically active, which caused human- and animal-shaped apparitions to appear in the sky in the direction of the north star. The first apparition lasted for centuries, but then faded away, later to be replaced by another somewhat different looking apparition. This seems to have happened several times over the course of over a thousand years. The later apparitions were thought to be reincarnations of the first one. These apparitions were associated with many ancient myths, including a great flood, which was a belief of ancient people all around the world.
 All major religions have similar beliefs in the law of Love for all. One early Christian writer said that the Buddhists had prepared the people of Europe and Asia minor for Jesus' teachings, which were similar to the Buddhists' teachings. The story of Abraham seems to be related to the story Brahma. Both have similar names and had wives with similar names, Sarah and Sarai. Both were spiritual teachers. So Abraham may have come originally from India, or eastern Asia.
 Belief in reincarnation does not prevent Christians from cooperating with Eastern religions and others to promote peace, love, freedom and prosperity for all people. Therefore, let us cooperate to warn the people who support beastly governments that they must withdraw their support in order to be saved from self-destruction, which is otherwise the fate of all beastly governments.